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Reply #1485 - Jan 6th, 2026 at 10:25pm
 
I had a bunch to say so I started a new topic for your question Serg.  It's here: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1767755889.
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Reply #1486 - Apr 11th, 2026 at 2:32pm
 
I like the look of slings with twisted cords. So far I made 2 slings which have the release cord and the retention cord made out of twisted cords (1 I made of wool, 1 I made of hemp), but when I load something into the pouch, then the sling starts twisting and the pouch is not in line with my hand any more.

Is there a trick on how much the single cord has to be twisted so that the double cord stays like it should under load? Is it just trial and error or is there a formula?

With my wool sling I twisted the release cord in the opposite direction than the retention cord, which helped a bit, but I donīt like that solution.
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Reply #1487 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 12:03pm
 
I have had some difficulty with this as well and would love to know others' thoughts.
I usually end up pre-spinning the retention cord by grabbing it with my palm down facing my legs, and then rotating it 1/2 turn up before I place the rock. For right hand throwing, with the rock in my left hand, I place it so that the rock is in between my body and the sling, then i rotate it counterclockwise so the sling is between myself anf the rock. Then I grab the release cord and pull it tight. (Depending on which direction and how tight your cords are spun) this can preload the sling to want to open with the release cord slightly behind the retention cord which i find to work decently well. Sometimes ill have to spin the release cord one way or the other to get it to stay where i want it.
Not sure if that helps at all or even makes sense but thats just some of my thoughts.
I also have had a question bouncing around my head for a while.
Say you make a sling with the retention cord braided super tightly so it doesn't twist at all, but the release cord is more like a single strand and can twist somewhat easily.
Compare that to a sling that is the exact opposite, a super stiff, non twisting release cord with a pliable and easily twisted retention cord. I want to make these two slings for myself with those being the only differences and see what I can learn.
Does anyone have thoughts on this matter?
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Reply #1488 - Apr 12th, 2026 at 6:38pm
 
We've discussed similar things before. Sarosh did a bunch of experimentation.

Torsional resistance 'should' help maintain good orientation and spin control on the projectile. If you had no delay between your wrist input and the projectile, that would be ideal. But in practice, all you can do is have a change in the  torsional stiffness and damping. *see video from Sarosh/Acroballistics on torsion https://youtu.be/vOuRwrfA7GQ?si=v85IeztL8KIMRYq3&t=134" So basically, for best results, you need to match the torsional stiffness of the sling with the speed you are throwing and the weight of the projectile.  For too heavy a projectile with not enough torsional stiffness, the sling cords will cross and can foul the shot (not a clean release). I'm not sure if there is a downside to better torsional resistance other than it usually makes the whole sling a bit stiffer, so it makes light projectiles release less cleanly.

Back to your original statement about pre-twisting the sling...
I have experimented with pretwisting the sling to try and get a hook or a slice with golf balls with pretty good success. Essentially twisting can alter the orientation of the release cord upon release to alter the orientation of the spin axis of the projectile and hence the direction of the Magnus force and therefore how it curves. (in case you haven't seen it https://youtu.be/ESrvvBFcrWM)
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Reply #1489 - Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:09pm
 
I'm giving consideration to writing a piece that draws a parallel between Zen or instinctive archery and slinging.  In particular, I'd be interested in how you might explain the act of aiming with a sling?
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Reply #1490 - Apr 23rd, 2026 at 3:22pm
 
FloatingFlint wrote on Apr 11th, 2026 at 2:32pm:
I like the look of slings with twisted cords. So far I made 2 slings which have the release cord and the retention cord made out of twisted cords (1 I made of wool, 1 I made of hemp), but when I load something into the pouch, then the sling starts twisting and the pouch is not in line with my hand any more.

Is there a trick on how much the single cord has to be twisted so that the double cord stays like it should under load? Is it just trial and error or is there a formula?

With my wool sling I twisted the release cord in the opposite direction than the retention cord, which helped a bit, but I donīt like that solution.


I've not found a solution to this yet, and I generally avoid twisted-cord slings for this reason. Also, flashbacks to my first year slinging when I didn't realize I had an issue with internally-twisted paracord. It drove me crazy thinking my technique was bad until I switched to hollow-braid cords and suddenly all the problems went away Grin

I think it is probably a natural result of the twisted nature of the cords and the tension they exert on each other. Finding a "balance" point is possible, but takes far more time than you're going to want to spend on every...single...throw.

Flat cords are the way.
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Reply #1491 - Apr 24th, 2026 at 11:03pm
 
I found a ball of hemp twine and am getting an itch to braid a sling. It's been years since I last made a sling (although I've used some of my slings more recently than that) and I want some advice for what kind to make. I'd like to braid something that's all in one piece ideally, something pretty traditional looking, and something that can handle any size of rock or ball (within reason). Does anyone have any recommendations or good tutorials I should look at?
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Reply #1492 - Apr 25th, 2026 at 6:12pm
 
Macrame slings always tend to garnish a lot of praise.  Plus, I think learning macrame makes learning things like crochet and knitting a lot easier.
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Reply #1493 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:49am
 
Problems of slingshot overflowing when throwing. What is the reason? In the photo, throwing with the index finger. It can be seen that everything is going well at first. But there is a swing and departure of the sling behind the back and then its twisting. In the third photo, you can see the overflowing of the sling and, as a result, the descent of the stone sharply upward and to the side. This is clearly visible in the freeze frame.  If Throwing occurs from the middle finger rather than the index finger, is the distance between the sling guides slightly greater and the probability of such an overrun may be less? But still, the main mistake of such descents, as it seems to me, is the loss of thrust and departure from optimal trajectories during a swing.

....I wonder what your opinion is about this twisting and sliding of the stone to the side.
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Reply #1494 - May 27th, 2026 at 6:54am
 
Snow Serg wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:49am:
....I wonder what your opinion is about this twisting and sliding of the stone to the side.

Have you seen this video? https://youtu.be/vOuRwrfA7GQ?si=NS6Dc2bP9kJYaye4
Perhaps this will help to understand the reason.
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Reply #1495 - May 27th, 2026 at 8:51am
 
Pocket rock.et, Great video, thanks a lot!!
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Reply #1496 - Jun 11th, 2026 at 12:08pm
 
Does anyone have any experience replacing crackers on a Balearic style sling? Personally, I can't get my hands on dyneema, so I use nylon, which doesn't last quite as long. I've tried taking out the cracker's fibers and splicing in new ones, but I also have to splice in more of the main sling material in order to even be able to braid it back together, as the remaining fibers are too short to hold. Now, because I'm braiding in longer fibers of the main sling material all it one place, I always end up with a thinner weak point in the grip of the release cord. I've even had one break off! Is there any way to avoid this? Is it better to just make a new sling once the release/tassel is worn?
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Reply #1497 - Jun 11th, 2026 at 12:31pm
 
I'd say that you are doing it right. When I've had to replace the end, I also have had to add in more of the main sling material. I usually would unbraid the cracker quite a way back into the sling, add material to keep the thickness where I wanted it and then add in the cracker material.

I don't know of a better way to do it. But I don't have to do it that often so I haven't experimented that much.
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Reply #1498 - Jun 11th, 2026 at 3:01pm
 
Yeah, agreed with Goober. You just have to unbraid further back than you think, and try to overlap the original and cracker material for longer before you taper out all the original material. That'll help avoid the breaking off problem.
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Reply #1499 - Jun 11th, 2026 at 3:41pm
 
erricrice wrote on Jun 11th, 2026 at 3:01pm:
Yeah, agreed with Goober. You just have to unbraid further back than you think, and try to overlap the original and cracker material for longer before you taper out all the original material. That'll help avoid the breaking off problem.

Makes sense, so just unbraid longer so I can splice in gradually. Thank you.
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