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Aug 4th, 2026 at 9:22am
 
A sports sling, which is convenient to throw only balls, not stones. Why make the sling heavier?
The video used a universal sling petal in the color "Hornet" (orange + black paracord)"+ inner layer with metal balls to increase the weight of the sling. The total weight of the balls turned out to be 20 grams. +sling weight of 30 grams = 50 grams total sling weight. I make standard braided slings from paracord weighing 25-30 grams. Weaving and additional stitching of the sling in critical places creates rigidity and adds better control over the ball when throwing, and an additional mechanism with the insertion of a string with balls helps to accelerate the light ball faster and more accurately bring it to the long swing and the starting point of acceleration / acceleration of the projectile. This is the first trial version, I just started experimenting with reducing the weight of the sling without increasing its sail capacity. In the process, it will become clear in which areas the weighting helps, and in which areas it will interfere with the work of the sling. One thing is clear, such a sling is suitable exclusively for throwing tennis balls and light protective projectiles, and therefore is not suitable for throwing stones.

https://rutube.ru/video/2b832ef82da295c2a7336bd97facbff2/

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Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2026 at 1:23pm
 
I tried to make an easier (for me) to build sling and accidentally created a “weighted pouch” in my Twin Loop sling.

https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1781562326

Here is what I found:

The weighted pouch increases the tension in the release cord (that is, more weight pulls harder). The increased tension causes the pouch to open faster and cleaner. This, along with the heavier feel added to tennis balls, made tennis balls “nicer feeling” to throw and created a temporary increase in accuracy. I found the accuracy increase only lasted the first dozen throws only and then my body adjusts and all slings became the same accuracy.

The extra sling weight did reduce distance however. This is consistent with other users experience that lighter slings can get longer distance. In my case, surprisingly, I did not lose distance for the Figure 8 style throw. My thought is the Figure 8 has less acceleration time (or sling spinning distance), so the heavier sling did not have as much of a negative effect.


Note: my “extra weight” was in the exact center of the pouch.   You can place the weight in different locations. So please report how your sling performs. I was disappointed my “accuracy improvement” was temporary. Maybe as you move the weight around, the accuracy improvement can become permanent?

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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2026 at 3:01pm
 
To increase the accuracy of the throw, I would advise you to try throwing from a braided sling in a geometry similar to Balearic. Smooth expansion at the basket and gradual narrowing to the tail and finger loops. This geometry of the sling does not overwhelm itself when the ball is dropped, and it is much easier to shoot at a target with such a sling. But of course everything is individual, you need to fully customize the sling for yourself. To make the loop comfortable, the most important thing is the dropping knot by which we hold the sling. The more we try different versions of slings, the more details we discover that can be improved and make our throwing better.

I was lucky to work in a shooting range with very good archery athletes. The guys are members of the national team, participants of the world Championships and the Olympic Games. Professional athletes-they explained how to build their workouts, keep a diary of training records and their results. In this way, it is possible to monitor and gradually improve shooting techniques and the constant adjustment of shooting equipment. I think it works the same way with a sling. For accuracy, in my opinion, you need to keep your own statistics. Not single shots, but full-fledged series of a large number of shots for the result. Record them and analyze both the equipment and the equipment we use.

To identify errors and work on them, we need the most identical shells. Tennis balls are great for this. You can practice with them every day at almost any venue.Throwing stones is certainly very exciting, but not everyone has the opportunity to find the same ones and have the opportunity to train with them regularly.
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Reply #3 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 2:42am
 
Unfortunately, due to the speed limit, I can't upload large videos to YouTube. This video is just a sample of the throws from the last episode, when I got a little used to the weight of the sling and the throws became more stable. I'm experiencing an interesting effect..it's like I have a stone in my sling bag, but in the end a light ball flies out, but it feels like a stone due to the weight of the sling)). I recommend trying to make such a sling, for everyone who throws balls, this type of sling is not suitable for stones.

https://youtu.be/nwQvj8WlQnw

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Reply #4 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 3:05am
 
Snow Serg wrote on Aug 5th, 2026 at 2:42am:

Good accuracy!
As far as I remember, Andrew from this forum also uses or has used weights for his leather pouch. But it seems he only has these materials on Instagram; I couldn't find them on YouTube.
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Reply #5 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 7:49am
 
I constantly compare my results and change and make different slings.  Thin rope ones bring much fewer hits than woven slings and similar in geometry to the Balearic. I also made slow-motion videos and watched how a thin sling and a wicker one with a ball worked. Very often, a thin sling makes a sweep and knocks the ball off a straight trajectory. The braided "Balearic" makes the ball drop more stable and smoother. The result is always higher when throwing 15 meters than with a thin sling. My standard braided paracord sling is usually 25-30 grams.If I add 15-20 grams of steel balls to it, it gives a total weight of 45-50 grams.It became even easier for me to control the ball with the weight of such a sling. But so far, I haven't done any statistics on such slings. The main thing for me is that it became more convenient to feel the heavy ball, although in fact it remained the same weight))
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Reply #6 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 11:32am
 
[a thin sling makes a sweep and knocks the ball off a straight trajectory..]

I have seen the same thing when throwing really slow with very light whiffle balls.

Need tension on the release cord to make it whip open and out of the way. Tension comes from a hard throw (centripedal acceleration) or a heavy projectile.

Also helps to have a smooth pouch/release cord transition I think…just in case there is contact.

Cool video!  I totally agree with the heavier pouch feels much nicer to throw tennis balls. That has been my experience too.
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Reply #7 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 1:19pm
 
Snow Serg wrote on Aug 5th, 2026 at 7:49am:
Very often, a thin sling makes a sweep and knocks the ball off a straight trajectory.

I won't argue, as there's probably some truth to this.
But I'll add something from my own experience. I've used various types of slings, both in weight and material, and I remain a fan of the simplest single-strand paracord design. I've had quite a few of them, and here's what I've noticed:
The design is similar, but the cords wear very differently. The wear marks indicate where the projectile touches the cord when the pouch opens, as you say, throwing it off course. And it's primarily not the sling itself, I think, but rather technique. The angle and position of the hand, supination, pronation. And the release point.
The second factor, I think, is the size of the pouch, or rather its length. If it's too short, wear is more likely to occur immediately after it ends.

As for the rest, I think I can understand the feeling of the weight, since only with a single-row sling like this do I feel the projectile, not the sling itself, when swinging and throwing. The projectile, no matter what its weight, even if it's 30 grams.
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Reply #8 - Aug 5th, 2026 at 3:30pm
 
All my descriptions in this topic are only about throwing a tennis ball. I do not consider stones and other compact and heavy projectiles in any way for throwing slings with additional weights. This will not only not give accuracy, but will also interfere with the acceleration of the stone.

Analyzing the behavior of a thin light sling and a balearic..I do it with the same technique and throwing style. And with the same errors, my performance is 2-3 times higher for Balearics and other slings that have a woven body with a smooth extension to the basket. They also allow you to make a very smooth and controlled grip/knot. If you make a knot on a thin sling, it will either be very small or very large and rough relative to the body of the sling itself. And it is the release, the purity of the nodule from the fingers, that suffers very much. But again, I'm only describing my feelings and throwing technique. Another slingerist may have a different anatomy, hand size, and finger thickness, which allows them to throw thinner slings. And that's okay. We're all very different.
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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 5:13pm
 
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my performance is 2-3 times higher for Balearics and other slings that have a woven body with a smooth extension to the basket


I just started using a braided rope sling after single strand paracord and this matches my experience. After some rough throws adjusting to it, my accuracy has easily doubled. I feel like my range has increased too, but I haven't tested it. I am kind of blown away by the difference.
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Reply #10 - Aug 6th, 2026 at 11:50pm
 
I'm probably lucky. When I first started slingshot throwing, I was engaged in reconstruction. And it so happened that my first sling was woven from nettle plant fibers. Subsequent slings were also woven.  And I quickly managed to learn how to hit large targets relatively well. When I tried, out of curiosity, to make thin slings out of paracord and thin threads, I was surprised at how wide the projectiles spread, and how difficult it was to hit the target. Of course, it's easy to make them, but this is their only advantage. And when I see how the guys despair that they will not hit the target, but continue to stubbornly throw balls from thin paracord cords, I am surprised at such persistence. All you need to do is make a pair of braided slings and compare them. This creative search will allow you to understand the difference between the work of different slings and, as a result, will give you new knowledge and skills and the pleasure of throwing from the thicket.
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Reply #11 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 12:31am
 
Places where, in my opinion, it is desirable to change the design of a thin sling for throwing a tennis ball!

1- I would remove the massive release and whip nodes. 2- increase the stiffness in the basket area. 3- Add the weight of the sling in the basket-this will give the ball good speed and make it easier to feel when throwing.
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Reply #12 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 2:42am
 
Snow Serg wrote on Aug 6th, 2026 at 11:50pm:
Of course, it's easy to make them, but this is their only advantage.

It seems your statements are becoming too categorical. I can agree that single-strand lines are HARDER to throw, but I don't agree that they are generally WORSE in terms of performance.Furthermore, thin webbing can also be flattened like a noodle, which will reduce its deflection due to the stiffening rib. For example, by using dyneema and rolling it out, or by sewing two cords together, as Sarosh did.

To keep the discussions constructive and not based on feelings, I suggest moving on to clear metrics.
For example, here are measurements from a typical workout at a relaxed pace with a thin strap and a ball. It shows the average speed, and below is a stability graph.

Speaking of accuracy, you can check out my Instagram (the button is under the post) and watch a few relatively recent videos. And don't get me wrong, I'm not boasting about excellent accuracy, my experience is only about two years. Another example is the Pansling. It has good accuracy and power with a single-strand sling (balls and stones).
What I mean is that if you compare the overall accuracy and grouping of a sling, I don't see a HUGE difference in performance, considering the design alone.

The slinger's experience has a greater influence.

p.s. Oh, and here's another one, for example, Primal Slinging. (mostly stones)
p.p.s. Ah, I just remembered another example! @Andrew_slings (balls)
p.p.s. And yes, how could I forget! Mersa (balls)
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Reply #13 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 3:00am
 
I apologize if my comments didn't seem correct to you. As I wrote earlier, all this is just my opinion and only about my throwing and my experience of throwing exclusively tennis balls and has nothing to do with throwing stones and bullets. And making the sling heavier for me has brought a significant improvement in throwing accuracy, nothing more. Just counting the results and statistics.  In the case of a ball, I'm not at all interested in the speed of the ball's flight. There is a distance of 15 meters, a 120x120 sports target, and everything I wanted to show with this topic is that you can try to improve your accuracy in this sports discipline. I am in no way discussing stone throwing in this topic. And once again, I ask you to forgive me if I misled anyone. This is most likely a problem with automatic translation into English.
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Reply #14 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 3:07am
 
I'm also talking about throwing balls, not stones. The results are completely different with stones.
Just take a look at the Instagram of the four guys I mentioned above.
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