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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #15 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 7:23pm
 
I didnt think about splicing those two parallel lines together where youve got it whipped now. I feel like it could probably be done but figuring out that splice before doing the two eye splices for the loops could be challenging. I need more splicing experience.

It would be stiffer than a regular cord but not as stiff nor as dense/weighty as the whipped connection. Which will have some small effect on how it feels.

Regarding your last paragraph, those are my thoughts exactly. When i make mine i will make as small of loops as i can while still being able to safely nest the ball inside.

my motto of sorts regarding this is to make the projectile sit as precariously safe as i can.
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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 11:33pm
 
bandit111964 wrote on Jun 3rd, 2026 at 7:23pm:
All in all, I like the heavier feeling Twin Loop sling put together with the 550 paracord west country whipping

I have an idea!
Where your knots connect two loops, you could create a "cobra" weave, like paracord bracelets or the "Primal sling" pouches they use on their slings. This would still keep the weight centered and increase the contact patch.

For side knot removal, try the Brummel Eye Splice and Brummel Lock Splice. This can be done not only with dyneema but also with paracord, if you partially or completely remove its inner strands.
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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #17 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 7:55am
 
That is a neat idea, pocket rocket!

A cobra weave would definitely look so, so much better cosmetically than west country whipping. The cobra would be flatter too and likely conform better to the tennis ball shape. Likely that would also look better and maybe even grip the tennis ball better??

Cobra weave I think uses more paracord (never made one so am guessing), so that adds even more weight to the center of the pouch.  I like how the west country whipping makes the tennis ball feel heavier, so likely I might like the heavier cobra weave even better.

I am out of paracord, need to buy some more. Will have to try this cobra weave. Might be this fall when I get back as going camping for two months this summer.  Got to learn to do a cobra weave first as well. If you are able to put one together would love a picture please!


Honestly, I really don’t completely understand why I like how this WCW version Twin Loop performs. Except for the “heavier tennis ball” feeling that is explained by the weight of the whipping added to the pouch center, not sure what about this sling feels “snappy” and feels like it releases quickly, nor why the tennis balls fly straight (no curve) and accurate.

I was thinking the west country whipping looks kind of like a stack of “beads”. The tennis ball contact is a single point on the outer surface of those “beads”.  The pouch grip is minimal with such a small contact patch. And maybe the “beads” let the tennis ball roll out of the pouch instead of the tennis ball sliding out of the pouch???

No idea. Can’t explain how the sling works. But it is very nice to throw and is becoming my favorite for tennis balls.
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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #18 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 12:54pm
 
bandit111964 wrote on Jun 4th, 2026 at 7:55am:
If you are able to put one together would love a picture please!
I once made something like this for a bracelet to attach a slingshot to my arm, but not for a sling. The weaving is not difficult and yes, I assume it will require a little more paracord than you have now and will therefore add weight.
As for me, thank you, I'm still happy with the "minimalist noodle-shaped survival slingshot" for two years now, despite trying various other designs. Smiley
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Reply #19 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 5:26pm
 
I still havent found time to make one so i dont have actual experience with it but my hypothesis is very similar.
Basically that you get the added benefit of a little more weight to feel as you sling around and release, without the negative of that extra material and mass in the way of the rocks trajectory. Since its all just single cords besides the center; the light, supple strands conform really easily and smoothly without disrupting the natural momentum path the mass the projectile has built up over the throw. This would explain the early release, low spin, and general accuracy as the actual trajectory aligns better with your expected trajectory due to the lack of resistance pushing it one way or another.

And yeah I was thinking of the cobra weave or also could do an over/under finger weave with one or two strands. Or i could see a small four or six strand warp woven rectangular patch running perpendicular to the pouch orientation being a very effective glande sling. That would be a little more complicated to figure out though.
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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #20 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 7:14pm
 
You guys have great ideas!!

I don’t know much about tying paracord honestly. Sounds like if could get rid of the whipping the sling would be stronger.

Can the sling be made in this manner?  Instead of whipping, just directly weave or make a “chain of knots” to connect two strands of paracord….leaving plenty of paracord sticking out the top and bottom of the weave/knot chain.

Then tie the paracord sticking out the top to the bottom paracord to create the 3.25” loop….one loop on each side of the weave/knot chain. The bottom paracord would left long and become the release/retention cord.  Poof!!  The whipping is eliminated and the Twin Loops are directed connected in the weave/knot chain at the center of the pouch.


If it is possible to make the sling this way then that does not seem hard to make (if I knew how to weave/make a knot chain that is). 



The way I made the sling was a conscious effort to make something that was very, very simple to me (tie 3.25”loops at the end of paracord, then whip the 3.25” loops permanently together). Very simple and very fast to make too….but the Twin Loops will always have that weakness the entire thing totally depends on the whipping carrying the load.  Thankfully tennis balls are so light!
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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #21 - Today at 10:13am
 
I described the Twin Loop sling feels snappy and releases quickly. 

The WCW paracord added to the pouch was 30” long. That would be 10% of a tennis ball’s weight, all concentrated at the pouch center.

Google AI says this “A heavier pouch often causes a quicker, cleaner release on a shepherd's sling.Here is how it works: a heavier pouch—or a sling with a heavier release cord—builds more momentum during your windup. This extra weight pulls down hard on the release cord. When you open your fingers, the added force snaps the cord out of your hand faster. It also helps "snap" the pouch open, releasing the stone cleanly without any of the pouch material catching on the rock.”


How about that?  I wasn’t imagining.
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