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New “Twin Loop” sling
Jun 1st, 2026 at 10:13pm
 
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Tutorial added at link above

This is a light duty sling for throwing tennis balls. Structurally not the best idea to make a two-part pouch connected at the point of highest loading! But just because it is a dumb idea doesn’t mean it can’t be done!!!

I have not seen anything similar (likely because it truly is a dumb idea!), so maybe I have invented a new type of sling construction??

In any case, very fast to make. Basically tie 3.25” loops at the end of two paracord strings. Then connect those loops together in their centers and the sling is done.

Love to gear your comments, including your prediction many tennis ball throws before the pouch explodes in two!

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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #1 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 10:14pm
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 10:15pm
 
Here you see the Twin Loops taped together before being whipped together
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Reply #3 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 10:19pm
 
Another pic.

At least the whipping hides the pouch is really two separate paracord loops. It will take a closer inspection to see this sling is put together illogically.
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Reply #4 - Jun 1st, 2026 at 11:35pm
 
Oh, it looks interesting! The only thing is, the connection point is where all the inertia rests...
What didn't you like about the regular three-line design in the bag?

If you're interested in the direction, scroll back a few pages; erricrice made a very similar noodle-shaped construction, only using dyneema and avoiding knots.
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Reply #5 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 12:12am
 
I like the noodle sling for it’s simple construction. It does throw great too.

Just I prefer not fiddling with split pouch/noodle strings every time I load a tennis ball.  I like the convenience of a solid pouch. So I created a “cage” sling to fix the noodle strings in position.  Then I did this Twin Loop sling as an even simpler-to-make “fixed position” noodle sling.

If I had some quality leather likely an Aussie pouch would be ideal. But right now all my materials are slippery nylon webbing, paracord , and mason line. So just trying different designs using materials on hand.


You are correct the loading was moved to the weakest component… basically the opposite of good design!  Paracord breaks at 550 lbs, mason line at 150 lbs, so quite a reduction. Definitely not ideal but for tennis balls should at least be not too unsafe.




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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #6 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 4:31pm
 
I do like the simplicity of the design! What kind of webbing do you have? If it is tubular webbing, perhaps using a short piece of that as the connector and running the loops that make up the pouch through that tube before tying off the loops would work. It would give you a similarly quick and simple construction (arguably quicker) while giving you a much stronger connection for the center.

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Reply #7 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 5:54pm
 
Brian:  I have 2” wide flat nylon webbing. But I see your idea would be an improvement for sure. Either a one piece pipe (not sure where to find one of correct diameter)…or a series of stacked beads (ranger beads are very common).

So far the Twin Loop sling is working perfectly. No issues with the mason line common whipping at all. But just for fun, today I made another Twin Loop sling but this time instead of the mason line I used 550 paracord west country whipping to hold the pouch together. Cosmetically does not look as nice but it must be stronger I think.

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Reply #8 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 5:56pm
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 8:49pm
 
Ive found the west coast whipping (WCW) can hold up way longer than the standard whip, but yeah its not as neat looking.

Im going to have to make one of these and see how they throw! Its an interesting overall weight/balance sling since all the mass concentration is at the very end of the pendulum (bottom of the pouch) and theres no excess material anywhere else besides the knots.
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Reply #10 - Jun 2nd, 2026 at 10:32pm
 
Love to get your impression, swiftcreek.

Had not thought about weight distribution…that is a very good observation!

I used figure 8 follow through knots to tie the loops. Lot of paracord in those kind of knots, so there is a chance to use lighter knots for sure. I was thinking a “flat” knot would be better (figure 8 follow thru did wind up kind of flat on one side), but was not thinking about a lighter knot would be better.

And the sling I made was 32.50” long, so a bit shorter length would make the pouch center even a bit higher percentage of the overall weight.  I did not accurately measure but I think I used around 28”-30” of paracord to do the whipping.  So the whipping paracord then was roughly the same length and therefore the same weight as the retention cord. Interesting.

Maybe there is a chance to use some other, heavier cord than 550 paracord for the whipping too??  Can it be a double layer of whipping??

Very curious what you come up with. Please post a picture.

In any case, I don’t think I am a good enough slinger to describe how this sling feels to throw. I guess it feels “snappy” and opens quickly?? My first throws vs my normal seatbelt sling were off in the direction that suggested the tennis ball came out sooner or I released early (slings were same length so usually release timing does not change for me). Maybe there is less drag on the ball as it leaves the pouch since the pouch is minimal??  Just guessing what happened, but it threw well and I really like it. I kind of think the tennis ball had a lot more spin too…but the ball went straight, no curving, so maybe wrong on this. Maybe when I use it more I can better describe it.

Honestly, I think my main feeling using this sling so far is just a feeling of surprise the pouch has not failed yet!! I am in shock this thing even works.
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Reply #11 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 12:18pm
 
I love your analysis! In the end all of us are just making our best interpretations of the anecdotal data we collect.

I could see it releasing early for sure. There is so little mass and material in the way of the ball when it flies out. i would think this would put less spin on it but there are other factors at play too. Depending on how large the loops are that will determine if the ball really has to roll out of the pouch or if it can just teeter off the edge if that makes sense.

I usually make my sling pouches as small as i can for the desired ammo to be comfortably sat. My thinking is just to have as small amount of material possible impeding the projectiles natural momentum path as possible.

I was thinking of making two eye spliced loopps and connecting those so as to reduce the side profile and get rid of knots.
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Reply #12 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 2:54pm
 
No knots would be awesome!

I am not that familiar with splicing. Is there any way to replace the whipping used to connect the pouch loops with a splice?

Under the whipping there are essentially two separate paracords side-by-side, running parallel to each other. Can you splice two separate, parallel cords into a single cord?

Keep in mind part of the reason for me is the whipping is stiff and so fixes the position of the pouch strings so I don’t have to fiddle around with adjusting the pouch to fit each time I throw a ball.  Would a splice be stiff too?
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Reply #13 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 3:08pm
 
Forgot to add: concerning your comment about the tennis ball rolling out of the pouch.

Not sure what happens when you throw it, but statically before you throw it I do know the pouch will hold the tennis ball even if the sling is horizontal.

When I created the pouch I played around with loop sizes and whipping length until the pouch held the ball when the sling was able to hold the ball horizontally.  I used masking tape to temporarily hold things together until I figured out all the dimensions.

Maybe this is excessively “gripping”??  I would guess if you reduce the amount of initial pouch grip (by changing the dimensions I used, for example), perhaps the pouch could release quicker. 

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Re: New “Twin Loop” sling
Reply #14 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 7:23pm
 
UPDATED REVIEW.

swiftcreek mentioned the weight/balance of the Twin Loop sling, so today I purposely tried to understand how this Twin Loop sling feels to throw.

I compared a standard seatbelt sling (with 7” long, 2” wide nylon backpack webbing for the pouch) with both the orange, mason line common whipping version of the Twin Loop and also the black 550 paracord west country whipping (WCW) version of the Twin Loop sling. Here is what I found.

Feeling due to spinning the sling:    The black WCW Twin Loop sling felt noticeably heavier loaded with a tennis ball and marginally heavier when spinning with the pouch empty.  The weight was all in the pouch, making this sling feel like it was loaded with a “heavier” tennis ball. Both of the other slings felt much lighter, and in fact, I really could not feel any differences in how the mason line whipping Twin Loop sling felt and how the seatbelt sling felt. Subjectively I would say these other two slings were the same sling in terms of feel.

Accuracy at 20 yards:     All slings were the same length so that should not change accuracy. I also threw only 2 tennis balls and then switched slings and kept repeating this to prevent “dialing in” any particular sling. Style was Byzantine.  The seatbelt sling was accurate with my typical scatter of misses generally to both the left and the right of the target.  The orange mason line whipping Twin Loop sling was similarly accurate but the misses were clustered more to the right of the target (as if the release was early). The black 550 WCW Twin Loop sling was very much more accurate. All the misses were much, much closer to the target and much more consistent-really felt like the tennis ball goes where I aim.




All in all, I like the heavier feeling Twin Loop sling put together with the 550 paracord west country whipping. At least for throwing tennis balls the sling felt and performed the best for me.
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