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Mother Earth News - Making and Using the Venerable Hand Sling
Mar 30th, 2025 at 6:36pm
 
One of our new member mentioned this article in his introduction.  It's pretty basic and isn't going to provide much in the way of new information here.  But it's pretty cool that it's from all the way back in 1985!  A 40 year old sling making tutorial! Smiley

https://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/hand-sling-zmaz85mjzraw/
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Re: Mother Earth News - Making and Using the Venerable Hand Sling
Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2025 at 1:11am
 
Oh, that's cool.
It shows a technique that many of us now call "figure eight". I don't think that's right, because in this version it doesn't draw the shape of an eight unless you swing it to the left and right of your body.
In this article it's called "overhand "baseball throw", which I think is more appropriate.
I think it's better to call the figure eight an eight, and this technique something else.

In the previous thread about the old book about the sling, I also raised this question, but there was no activity) (https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1739373414)
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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2025 at 8:03pm
 
Pocket rock.et wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 1:11am:
in this version it doesn't draw the shape of an eight unless you swing it to the left and right of your body.

In this version it does pass on both sides of the body.  In part A of the first image, we can see that the sling's path is in front of the body because the line is over top of his legs.  In part B, it's behind the body because the line showing the path is broken when it passes the arm.  And the sling itself is behind him in the secondary position of the arm/sling.

Don't worry about this style making a perfect image of an '8' from any particular angle.  It's not going to.  I don't know who coined the name, but I assume it's because this style has almost two full rotations of the sling.  One is in front of the body, and the other is behind it.  So two loops with a crossing point that's pretty much right over your head.


Pocket rock.et wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 1:11am:
it doesn't draw the shape of an eight unless you swing it to the left and right of your body.

If you mean swinging the sling to the right and left right in front of you, that's not a style.  All that does is make sure you can't use your shoulder when you decide to throw the projectile.  The reason is because your should needs to be in a forward position in order to swing the sling in a loop to the left (assuming a right handed slinger).  And when the sling brought back to the right, there's not enough time to get your shoulder back in order to bring it forward again for the throw.  There was a video out there of a guy just rotating the sling side-to-side in front of him and calling it Figure-8.  If it's done that way, it's basically a power killer.  That movement doesn't add anything beneficial to the throw.  I'll see if I can find that video.


I have some thoughts on your post in the other topic and will respond to that.
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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2025 at 8:36pm
 
I don't know if this is the video I was thinking of, but it's one of them.  I had to search for "survival slinging" instead of anything about Figure 8.  Grin

Here's his description where he explains the movement and refers to it as a Figure 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhkwNg_qBd8&t=148.  And you can just watch, or here's where he's slinging: https://youtu.be/JhkwNg_qBd8&t=242.  He's not getting his upper arm and shoulder involved at all.  He might as well have his elbow tied to his body.  A throw like this is relying almost entirely on the rotation of the sling by itself instead of a rotating extension of the arm.
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Reply #4 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 1:15am
 
joe_meadmaker wrote on Mar 31st, 2025 at 8:36pm:
Here's his description where he explains the movement and refers to it as a Figure 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhkwNg_qBd8&t=148.  And you can just watch, or here's where he's slinging: https://youtu.be/JhkwNg_qBd8&t=242. 

I saw this video, but I wouldn't trust it) it looks like it was filmed for content.

In fact, it doesn't really matter what it's called, the story of the origin and transformation of the name is interesting, which I just answered in that thread about the book along with a description of the logic of my thoughts)
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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2025 at 7:34pm
 
Pocket rock.et wrote on Apr 1st, 2025 at 1:15am:
I saw this video, but I wouldn't trust it) it looks like it was filmed for content.

Totally agree.  No one who's been slinging for any amount of time throws like that.

On the origin story, I'm a little skeptical for the reason just mentioned.
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