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You are going to war.
Jan 31st, 2025 at 10:11am
 
Alright so here's the question.

You are about to die an unfulfilled, unaccomplished old man or woman. Death comes to you and makes you an offer for his own amusement. You can be reborn into another person's body as a young man or woman in the prime of life but you will be a soldier/warrior and you WILL be going to war where you will be involved in battles. No sitting this scenario out.

But Death offers you the choice of what time and culture you want to be part of. What do you choose?
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Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2025 at 8:17am
 
   I'm an army vet.  Since the US army is structured somewhat like the Roman army I think I'd be right at home as a Centurian.  Plus with the Roman army if you're fortunate enough to survive there's usually a nice payoff at the end... citizenship, choice land, etc.
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Reply #2 - Feb 2nd, 2025 at 7:45am
 
Unfullfilled and unaccomplished is a minumum of 50% of the population.

So I will die without experiencing battle thanks.

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Reply #3 - Feb 3rd, 2025 at 10:05am
 
Morphy, I will answer with it a little diferently.
I went to Belfast during the conflict in North-Ireland. For me, it's a fascinating city for its violence, humanity, humour, resilence, pride, fragility and thirst for justice.
As long as you haven't been in a war, you can't realize how violent and trivial it is. Just my idea.
So, to answer your question, I would like to go back as a journalist to better understand people.

If not, as long as I can live again, I would be curious about the battle of Tollense in the bronze age.

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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 3:31pm
 
Well my great grandpa was at Normandy Omaha Beach so maybe that just to experience what he did but I'm sure I'd regret that immediately
Or maybe be part of the varangian guard of Miklagaard/Constantinople
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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 4:03pm
 
I may be able to add a twist to this conversation.

Due to survivorship bias, the word "War" is an example of a word for which it is literally impossible to have a correct opinion.

Whatever description you might have heard, whatever experiences, whatever image the word itself generates in your head, whether the word is read, heard or seen, it is incorrect and biased towards a positive interpretation. This is inevitable by the very nature of the thing. Your idea of war is wrong, inevitably.

The total set of experiences of people participating in a war includes all of the experiences of death, including the very worst deaths imaginable (or unimaginable). These experiences of death, even though they are an inevitable and essential part of the total set of experiences of war, are by the nature of war absent from the perceived image of it. The dead are simply silent.

You could graphically imagine this as a line distribution, one extreme represented by the most positive experiences of war and the other extreme by the very worst. Death erases a huge chunk of the very worst side of this distribution. The only thing left for any(every)one to see is what the living know, biased towards the positive extreme.

There are other concepts where survivorship bias plays a similar role, of course, and I'm sure you could think of other examples, but in my opinion none are as destructive or as sinister as war.

Please keep this in mind when contemplating questions like the one listed above.

P.S. The exact same is true for deadly diseases, distorting our perception and making us disregard their danger, causing more suffering and death through our inaction.
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Reply #6 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 11:20pm
 
RhonanTennenbrook wrote on Feb 4th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
You could graphically imagine this as a line distribution, one extreme represented by the most positive experiences of war and the other extreme by the very worst. Death erases a huge chunk of the very worst side of this distribution. The only thing left for any(every)one to see is what the living know, biased towards the positive extreme.

I don't know.  Obviously the dead aren't going to speak for themselves, but that doesn't mean their voices aren't heard through family, friends, and their fellow soldiers.  I also think that there's way more horror stories to come out of war than positive ones.  Perhaps not on the surface, but certainly if you go digging for them.  It makes one think about how much stuff did happen and people know about, they just have no desire to talk about.  I would agree that someone who hasn't known a battle field can't have any idea what that feels like.  But I don't agree that lack of experience puts an inherently positive spin on someone's perception of war.


I'd probably change my mind if I thought about it more.  But my first quick thought is drop me in as one of the longbowmen at the Battle of Crécy.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:26am
 
Ooh that's a cool idea to be one of the long Bowman at Crécy
Beat the french
Those warbow archers were freakishly strong
Often there skeletons could be identified by excess bone density and size on the right arm and shoulders
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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
I like the idea of people who go to war against all odds for a just cause and end up winning. Normandy is a good one. Those guys...man...talk about bravery.

If I had to choose I would end up in a Native American tribe in the high desert in the American Southwest defending my territory from an enemy tribe in the days before white settlers came.
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Reply #10 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:10am
 
Morphy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:08pm:
I like the idea of people who go to war against all odds for a just cause and end up winning. Normandy is a good one. Those guys...man...talk about bravery.

If I had to choose I would end up in a Native American tribe in the high desert in the American Southwest defending my territory from an enemy tribe in the days before white settlers came.


    Here's a good David and Goliath story. Taffy 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPXordKnF40&t=27s
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Reply #11 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 8:00pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:10am:
Morphy wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 6:08pm:
I like the idea of people who go to war against all odds for a just cause and end up winning. Normandy is a good one. Those guys...man...talk about bravery.

If I had to choose I would end up in a Native American tribe in the high desert in the American Southwest defending my territory from an enemy tribe in the days before white settlers came.


    Here's a good David and Goliath story. Taffy 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPXordKnF40&t=27s


That was a wild ride RM. Thanks.
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