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Max kinetic energy
Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:46pm
 
I'm not sure that the upper limits of kinetic energy for slinging have been thoroughly explored. If I'm incorrect, please link me to the right discussion.

I've seen a 2.244 kg stone thrown at 17 m/s somewhere on here. Assuming spherical cows thrown at 45° in a vacuum (sorry), velocity = √(distance·9.8/sin(2·angle))

That yields:

  • 38.1 kg·m/s
  • 324.3 Joules
  • 0.077 Calories


I don't think that there is an optimal size stone for achieving high energy, because it just depends on how big a stone the slinger can heft. As an example, a 100 kg projectile could be thrown one meter:

  • 313 kg·m/s
  • 490 Joules
  • 0.117 Calories


Another example is the world record hammer throw of 23.56 meters with a 7.26 kilogram (16 pound) hammer. Using the same back-of-the-napkin math, this yields:

  • 211.7 kg·m/s
  • 3085.7 Joules
  • 0.737 Calories


My calculations:
velocity based on distance.xlsx

What is the maximum energy that you have been able to produce with a sling?
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Re: Max kinetic energy
Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:07pm
 
Not sure about max energy because I don't have recorded speeds for a lot of stuff.  But as your numbers show, an increase in weight seems to get the energy up faster than an increase in speed for smaller projectiles.

I think this is the largest stone I've done: https://youtu.be/ly8Gx3oIoD8&t=791.  It was 3273 grams.  That thing was hitting crazy hard.

I've also thrown full size pumpkins and watermelons with a sling.  Some of them pretty heavy.  Obviously not a ton of speed with those.  Here's a 10 meter target hit with a 15 lb. watermelon: https://youtu.be/EbD8fXLGgkk?&t=493.
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Re: Max kinetic energy
Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2024 at 8:54am
 
I made an error on the the 1 meter 100 kilogram throw 😳

kg·m/s Joules Calories
Error 4425.0 97903.1 23.4   
Corrected 313.0 490.0 0.117

I corrected it in the original post.
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Re: Max kinetic energy
Reply #3 - Nov 20th, 2024 at 10:23am
 
Joe, here are some estimated values for energy output based on 10 meter, 45° throws, and not accounting for any air resistance. The velocity for both would be 9.9 m/s, or 22.1 mph.

Projectile kg      kg·m/s    Joules   Cal 
Watermelon 7.167   317.1      7016.5   1.68
Stone       3.273   144.8      3204.4   0.77

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More corrections:

Projectile kg      kg·m/s    Joules   Cal 
Watermelon 7.167    70.9      351.2   0.084
Stone       3.273    32.4      160.4   0.038

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Re: Max kinetic energy
Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
@joe_meadmaker, I made more corrections this time to the estimations for the watermelon and 3 kg stone.
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