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New netted sling design tutorial
Sep 4th, 2024 at 2:38am
 
Hello everyone

Please find attached the tutorial for a netted pouch of my own design.

This pouch is part of a button sling design made out of Dyneema fishing line like the ones IronGoober used in his recent long range videos.

I cobbled together this tutorial out of photos I already had of previous slings. Unfortunately, I hadn't taken pictures while making the entire sling, so this tutorial focuses only on making the pouch.

This tutorial is detailed enough that I hope anyone can make the same sling if they follow every instruction. However, I don't expect everyone to follow every instruction to the very last detail. I imagined this document as more of a list of my own observations and hacks and anyone can take any part of the tutorial they find useful and apply it to their own designs.

I hope to see many new netted slings made by you people inspired by my design.

I will be looking back at this thread and answering questions when I get the chance.


Kind regards
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Re: New netted sling design tutorial
Reply #1 - Sep 4th, 2024 at 1:38pm
 
Awesome Rhonan!  Thank you!

Quick question: how much longer should the seventh strand be?
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Reply #2 - Sep 4th, 2024 at 2:52pm
 
Hi @ScantPalaver

Good question.
It depends on the size of the pouch, really.
I haven't really measured, but I would have it double the length of the rest of the strands just to be safe. The pouch really eats up material.
In my slings I usually remove two of the strands out of the braid after the pouch to reduce it from a 7-strand to a 5-strand braid, to reduce the weight of the release cord. In that case you just remove the shortest strands, whichever those may be.
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Reply #3 - Sep 5th, 2024 at 11:43pm
 
Beautiful tutorial Rhonan. Thumbs Up

Thanks for posting!
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Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2024 at 11:11pm
 
Rhonan, in your first post a few months ago, you mentioned "figuring out how to braid more tightly" so your subsequent slings were stiffer.  How did your braiding technique change?  Right now I'm trying to figure out how to keep my braid tighter, but all I got is "pull real hard before adding the strand."  But I'm seeing some strands slip under others, so either one is tighter, or the other is looser, or both.
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Reply #5 - Oct 2nd, 2024 at 11:23pm
 
Ooh! I just learned how. I'll save the description for him to describe, but here is the result of the way I braid (pulling all strands evenly) vs. the way he does it.

https://youtu.be/BM8_XqQeWRc
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Reply #6 - Oct 2nd, 2024 at 11:56pm
 
Man!  The timing!   Grin
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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 2:55am
 
Hi hi

Yeah... Ok... So...

Hook your sling onto something. I use a door handle.

So let's say you're braiding a 7 strand braid. Your instinct might be to pull all 7 strands hard and hold them tight all the time during braiding. You should try to ignore that instinct.
You have 4 strands on one side and 3 on the other, and you're about to pass the outermost strand over to the other side. Before passing the strand over, grab it and pull hard on that individual strand against the door handle (or what ever you have hooked your sling on). It is VERY important NOT to hold any tension on the other 6 strands. The tightness comes from the contrast between that one strand you're pulling and the rest of the braid you keep loose. When you do that you will see the rest of the braid "snake" or "twist" or "zigzag" left and right around that one strand you're pulling for like 1 cm up the braid. It will look chaotic, but that's exactly what you want.

If you do that, what happens is that you're braiding the sling at the point you're passing the strands over, but it is tightening about 1 cm further up the braid. You will see the strands wrench against one another so tight the thread will lose color and go paler.

I strongly recommend using a good pair of work gloves, the kind where the fingers and palms are dipped in rubber. Braiding with gloves like that is going to feel terrible, but you will be able to pull MUCH harder, and you will protect your hands. I guarantee that you will not be able to braid the entire sling sufficiently tight without seriously hurting your unprotected hands.

I also suggest taking a few offcuts of thread and testing the method out. I still have a half finished sling in my cabinet with half of the retention cord floppy. It took me half the retention cord to get the technique right. By then I had to start over.

Hope that helps. Smiley
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Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 3:02am
 
I'm making a sling for a close friend here at home. It's 1,2mm thread, 7 strand retention cord and it'll be 75 cm long. I'll take a photo of the finished retention cord. I can hold the entire retention cord horizontal and it doesn't bend, it stays horizontal.
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Reply #9 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 10:42am
 
Thank you Rhonan!  I've started doing the "hulk pull" like you're describing, I guess I need to practice the technique more.  Pulling the strand directly against your anchor settles something I've been going back-and-forth on.  Plus, I need a better anchor.  And the gloves are a good tip, I know exactly what kind you're talking about.  While I was working on it last night, I could feel the line trying to cut into my fingers.
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Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 11:10am
 
Dude, you don't have to pull your door handle off. The trick is in the contrast between the one strand you're pulling, and the rest of the braid you keep loose. Smiley
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Reply #11 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 11:37am
 
I'm using a velcro 3M Command hook for an anchor right now.  I've pulled it off a few times, so I need something sturdier.  Other than that, I think I'm close to figuring it out.  I don't think I'm looking far enough up the braid when I pull, and I'm seeing some inconsistencies where it looks like some strands end up under others, but I'm chalking that up to inexperience.
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Reply #12 - Oct 3rd, 2024 at 2:16pm
 
Also, I think this method may work best with small strands, with larger strands I was having a hard time getting good results (i.e. no twisting).
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