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Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Jun 30th, 2024 at 7:03pm
 
Hello again forum! My first "proper" post here then. Summer crazy but getting more time (and getting material) have finally started construction on a new sling... Can now braid MUCH faster but now have the same issue I've had for a while; that is not knowing how to properly start/finish a secure and smooth pouch transition.

What I did at first was just turk's head knot on either side of the "base strings" and then weave in the pouch entirely separate from the rest of the sling; either using one longer or two shorter pieces of paracord.

What I currently do is braid first cord to desired length, then insert a couple of strings where it FEELS like they will "lock" at least a little bit (don't yet have a system so this is trial and error) then do a 6 strand "half round braid" (named thusly from online. I don't know if a round braid would be better?) for a couple of rounds only then start weaving the split pouch, 6 strand braid again and then leave both ends hanging which I then finish by just pulling tight and then melting. I don't really like this way of doing it; it's hit and miss.

I have experimented both with pouch string with/without guts but have not tried the 6 strand entry without one.

So my question then... What is a good and consistant way of specifically entering/exiting the pouch? I saw this post in the sales-section:

https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1717961690

and that example looks VERY nice and secure to me (no affiliation) with the strings crossing over like that holding the sides closer as well. There are also no big knots on either side (seemingly a plus imho).

Are there any easy to follow tutorials on this way of doing the pouch? Any special tools other than tweezers required for it (don't yet own the special paracord needles)?



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Re: Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Reply #1 - Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:10am
 
I progress from the 4-strand weave into the pouch, By just taking the middle of my 5th -weave- string and making an overhand knot on one side. I then start weaving the other side. I do watch very closely what the "natural direction" of the continuous strands is, and try to start the weave on the right spot. The more even this is, the more centralised your pouch will be on the retention cord.


It is explained in this tutorial:
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-make-a-rockman-sling---bruno-tosso]htt...[/url]

It took me a few tries to get it right; you can check the pictures in my introduction topic:
https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1715762136/23#23

btw; I don't need any special tools for the pouch. Just a pair of scissors and a lighter.

-edit; tried to fix te link, but still doesn't work  Roll Eyes-
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Re: Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Reply #2 - Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:29am
 
Stabyhoun wrote on Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:10am:
I progress from the 4-strand weave into the pouch, By just taking the middle of my 5th -weave- string and making an overhand knot on one side. I then start weaving the other side. I do watch very closely what the "natural direction" of the continuous strands is, and try to start the weave on the right spot. The more even this is, the more centralised your pouch will be on the retention cord.


It is explained in this tutorial:
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-make-a-rockman-sling---bruno-tosso]htt...[/url]


It took me a few tries to get it right; you can check the pictures in my introduction topic:
https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1715762136/23#23

btw; I don't need any special tools for the pouch. Just a pair of scissors and a lighter.


Thank you very much for the reply. That first link of yours doesn't work (?), it directs to the wayback machine and then don't know what to press, but the second one did and again those pictures look very promising. I tried searching "rockman sling" but only result was back to this thread. Do you have a functioning link to the tutorial please?  Smiley

Edit: found a tutorial that matches the name at least (but done in different material). This shows how to make it like yours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlSIRLf-2Dg&t=85s

Oh and also does this pouch entry/exit work for a round braid (I prefer this style as with the flat braids I can feel the sling "turn" during the swing which feels less natural)?
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Re: Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Reply #3 - Jul 1st, 2024 at 2:22pm
 
Here is a functioning link to the original Rockman tutorial:
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-make-a-rockman-sling---bruno-tosso
It's in Aussie's Tutorial and FAQ Thread found under links to faq and weapons index above. 
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Re: Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Reply #4 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:18am
 
Rat Man wrote on Jul 1st, 2024 at 2:22pm:
Here is a functioning link to the original Rockman tutorial:
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-make-a-rockman-sling---bruno-tosso
It's in Aussie's Tutorial and FAQ Thread found under links to faq and weapons index above. 


Aha for some reason the link did not work for me once again but looked it up manually in the tutorials. PLENTY interesting there to read I see (so guess this thread was possibly needless; my bad moderators thought it was a very specific question but maybe it wasn't); thank you for pointing me in the right direction. 👍
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Re: Smooth 4 string sling pouch transitions beginning/ending?
Reply #5 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 8:05am
 
Klydd wrote on Jul 1st, 2024 at 8:29am:
Thank you very much for the reply. That first link of yours doesn't work (?), it directs to the wayback machine and then don't know what to press, but the second one did and again those pictures look very promising. I tried searching "rockman sling" but only result was back to this thread. Do you have a functioning link to the tutorial please?  Smiley

Edit: found a tutorial that matches the name at least (but done in different material). This shows how to make it like yours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlSIRLf-2Dg&t=85s

Oh and also does this pouch entry/exit work for a round braid (I prefer this style as with the flat braids I can feel the sling "turn" during the swing which feels less natural)?


I tried to fix the link, but somehow it doesn't work. Good to see you found the right tutorial. The video you linked uses the same method as well.

I've made this design with a 6-strand flat, 6 strand round, and 4 strand round braids for the retention cord. It works just fine. I think with the round braids, it is easier to make the pouch exactly centered on the retention cord.
A round braid also gives you the option to rotate the pouch 90 degrees relative to the finger loops.

I don't really think it matters much. It is all personal preference.
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