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Jun 22nd, 2024 at 10:33pm
 
As I started digging into sling construction, something that comes up is breaking down rope or twine for the fibers.  While a rope may be too big, twine seems like it could just be made into a sling directly.  Why add such a (seemingly) labor intensive step?
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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 1:55am
 
For me, there are two reasons. One is to make slings more akin to how they would have been made historically. Braiding loose fibers from plants would have been faster than to manufacture twine first.  Two, it is fun! There is something satisfying about making slings from lengths of fiber that are closer to what you'd get directly from the plant.

I take it one step further and collect plant fibers from plants (like yucca, agave, flax, etc.) and then braid those into a sling. It is just about as laborious as deconstructing a rope, but it is very satisfying once you are finished with the sling.
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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 2:06am
 
Would you say it's necessary?  Could I just take some twine and go from there?  Or does commercial twine have imperfections that could jeopardize the integrity of the sling?  I also have some kevlar and UHMWPE, but they're too small.  Could those be bundled, twisted, and braided like plant fiber?  I don't think I've seen information about making a sling if what you have is too small.  But I may not have looked well enough...
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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 5:11am
 
Using different sling materials and the designs can have effects on many different characteristics that can be beneficial or increase your overall performance with a given sling. Unfortunately to learn what you like in a sling it often takes a lot of experimenting.

You can make a sling with a single cord.
Bit most people prefer a different type of sling due to many different reasons.
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Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 9:52am
 
Absolutely you can use twine by itself. You don't need to do anything to it and it will make a great sling.
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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2024 at 12:46pm
 
  • Fibre in my view looks better, it produces a cleaner braid.
  • It's generally better for tapering and splicing material to control thickness of the braid. With twines, especially thick twines, you have less flexibility, especially for thinner braids.
  • Some materials like sisal I would only really work with in fibre as it is very springy and has undesirable properties in twine form which can have a negative effect on the sling. In fibre form it's like a totally different material.
  • Some materials are just plain hard to find in twine, whilst generally you have plenty of options for rope for a wider variety of materials. As far as I know there is no polysteel twine, and in the UK getting hemp twine can be difficult too.


Twine does work just fine though and is significantly easier and faster to braid with. Also, for round braids and woven pouches it's a better choice IMO. I would highly recommend starting with twine if you are braiding a sling.
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Reply #6 - Jun 28th, 2024 at 3:53am
 
Hemp fibre is readily and cheaply available in the UK.
Screwfix, any plumbers suppliers and ebay all have it in quantities from plenty for one sling up to kilo bundles.
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Reply #7 - Jun 28th, 2024 at 3:21pm
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Jun 28th, 2024 at 3:53am:
Hemp fibre is readily and cheaply available in the UK.
Screwfix, any plumbers suppliers and ebay all have it in quantities from plenty for one sling up to kilo bundles.
Be happpy.
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Preaching to the choir, I have a good stash of the stuff I got on ebay! Alas though, twine is harder to find. Doesn't help that most online listings use the word "hemp" for search hits even when they are jute 99.9% of the time  Angry
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Reply #8 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 1:13am
 
I joined this forum to ask this question, now I'm sitting here untwisting a manila cord to see what kind of fibers I can get from it.
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Reply #9 - Aug 25th, 2024 at 11:02am
 
ScantPalaver wrote on Aug 25th, 2024 at 1:13am:
I joined this forum to ask this question, now I'm sitting here untwisting a manila cord to see what kind of fibers I can get from it.

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Reply #10 - Sep 6th, 2024 at 2:29am
 
Have any of you more experienced weavers here ever try making a Balearic sling using raffia fibers?  I see raffia fibers readily available in bundles at local craft supplies.
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He then took his staff in his hand and chose five smooth stones from the streambed and placed them in the pouch of his shepherd’s bag, and his sling was in his hand. And he began approaching the Philistine.  David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet the Philistine.  David thrust his hand into his bag and took a stone from there and slung it. He struck the Philistine in the forehead...
 
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Reply #11 - Sep 6th, 2024 at 4:35am
 
Ahnkochee wrote on Sep 6th, 2024 at 2:29am:
Have any of you more experienced weavers here ever try making a Balearic sling using raffia fibers?  I see raffia fibers readily available in bundles at local craft supplies. 


I haven't.  I see them at Michael's but they're always so brittle I never even considered trying them.
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Reply #12 - Sep 6th, 2024 at 4:46am
 
I  tried cord making with raffia recently and was surprised  at what a decent result it gave.
If you want to give it a go, why not ?

Perhaps try some raw and waxed, oiled, wet and any other treatments you can think of ?

Good luck and have fun.

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Reply #13 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 12:40am
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Sep 6th, 2024 at 4:46am:
I  tried cord making with raffia recently and was surprised  at what a decent result it gave.
If you want to give it a go, why not ?

Perhaps try some raw and waxed, oiled, wet and any other treatments you can think of ?

Good luck and have fun.

Smiley Smiley


I am a fan of pine tar, so may try that.
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He then took his staff in his hand and chose five smooth stones from the streambed and placed them in the pouch of his shepherd’s bag, and his sling was in his hand. And he began approaching the Philistine.  David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet the Philistine.  David thrust his hand into his bag and took a stone from there and slung it. He struck the Philistine in the forehead...
 
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Reply #14 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 1:56am
 
Ahnkochee wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 12:40am:
I am a fan of pine tar, so may try that.


Any advise on where to get some?  Or are the horse hoof listings on Amazon fine?

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