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How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Jun 22nd, 2024 at 3:25am
 
How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?  Is the target in front of you, or in front of the sling (specifically the pouch)?
A few things about this question:
  • This is most relevant for a sidearm release.  That release could be a little over or under a directly horizontal release, but is essentially a sidearm motion.
  • 13 meters, 20 meters, whatever.
  • Sling length isn't really important here.  Although for longer slings, the angles would be more extreme.
  • In the image, a solid line indicates a direct line of sight or line of fire to the target.  A dotted line indicates an angle that needs to be accounted for.
  • The "target" in the image is supposed to represent a diana, but the scale isn't exact.

For most of my slinging days, I have used the C orientation.  In my mind, it made sense to stand directly in front of what I was slinging at.  Lately I’ve been moving more toward a B orientation.  With a full size Balearic target, I’m setting up with my position in front of the left side of the target.  Basically between the edge of the target and the diana.  This has helped with misses to the right, which have been a fairly recent thing for me.

I also think that the A orientation has an advantage that the release point will be the same even if the distance changes.  The vertical angle may need to increase, but general timing of the release should be the same.

I am curious to hear thoughts on advantages and disadvantages.  If you choose 'Other', please explain.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #1 - Jun 22nd, 2024 at 7:51am
 
A or B for the most part when practicing with tennis balls. Having it bounce back with a good throw is satisfying, and saves on pickup  Smiley
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #2 - Jun 22nd, 2024 at 1:08pm
 
   Honestly it's something I never thought about.  Off the top of my head I'd say C but I'm going to have to do some slinging to see if that's correct.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2024 at 4:34pm
 
I do C, but the difference between B and C is only the orientation of the target I think. So when shooting at tree trunks for example, B and C would be the same. Or is B not facing at the target's center?
Maybe B/C are more intuitively, with rifle scopes for example you aim in the same way as with B/C. But in the end it's probably just depending on what you get your muscle memory accustomed to
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2024 at 6:09pm
 
kairo wrote on Jun 22nd, 2024 at 4:34pm:
the difference between B and C is only the orientation of the target I think.

That's actually the case for all of them.  The target could be rotated so the front lines up with the slinger's line of sight.  A tree makes it more difficult to visualize this because it's round and doesn't have a specific flat front-facing side.  B and C might be very similar (or the same) with a tree because of its roundness, but that isn't the case with a Balearic target or any other target that has a specific "front".

I guess another way to describe the orientation is before you put your body into the position you use for slinging, just stand normally facing the target.  Your shoulders should be creating a line parallel to the face of the target.  If the target (point) is directly in front of you, that is the C position.  If the target is inline with your right shoulder (more or less), that's the B position.  And if the target is outside (and to the right) of being inline with your body, that's A.  Those descriptions are for a right-handed slinger obviously.

The general question is do you prefer your target to be a straight line ahead from your eye, from the sling pouch, or somewhere in between.


kairo wrote on Jun 22nd, 2024 at 4:34pm:
But in the end it's probably just depending on what you get your muscle memory accustomed to

100% this.  There is certainly no correct answer to this question.  It's just something I've been experimenting with the past few weeks and was curious to hear from others on the subject.
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Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 5:03am
 
B-C . But somewhat in between. Mostly like c but not as squared centre. Slightly more like b .
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Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2024 at 6:04am
 
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 10:31am
 
When I read your question, I thought of a different answer, before even seeing your pictures.

I tend to aim, standing perpendicular to the target (D). On release I turn in for a bit, like E.

I must say, I do have a tennis background, and I really like the figure-8 trow for that. It is the same motion as a tennis-serve. And thus also the same follow-through.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:35pm
 
I also start in a D position (as shown in your image) with my left arm toward the target and the right arm is basically behind me.  The image I posted is intended to show the upper body the instant before releasing the sling.  In general your shoulders should be opened up and your chest almost facing the target at that point.

If you have a video of your throw, I love to see it.  But I would be very surprised if your right shoulder is still that far back from the target when you release (as shown in E).  Your torso should generally rotate the entire way around so you finish with your right shoulder toward the target.

The Figure-8 is definitely a good style.  It won't apply to this situation much because it's an overhand release instead of sidearm, so more inline with the slinger no matter what target orientation is used.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #9 - Jun 24th, 2024 at 3:40pm
 
Visuals are good.  Smiley

Here's one from IronGoober.  He did some recording with an overhead angle.  You can see his upper body rotate all the way around so it's facing forward at the time of release.

https://youtu.be/doTYAGCTdog&t=30

So the question on the table is, at that point, is the target directly in front of you (the slinger), directly in front of the pouch and projectile, or somewhere in between?
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Reply #10 - Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:26am
 
Did some slinging yesterday, and I guess you are right. The release point will probably be more like B, but the mental/aiming part, is rotated like D.


Depending on the throwing style and the distance, the angle varies between eye and pouch differs.
I feel like I do de throwing more on a instinctual level, So I don't really take that offset into account in my aiming. I just focus on a point, and throw.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #11 - Jun 26th, 2024 at 10:07pm
 
Stabyhoun wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:26am:
I feel like I do throwing more on a instinctual level

I love this kind of stuff.  My favorite target style is a pendulum.  Although I haven't done one for a while.  Aerial targets are a lot of fun too.  When your target is in motion, there's no time for thinking or planning.  Just let your body do its thing.


Stabyhoun wrote on Jun 26th, 2024 at 7:26am:
I don't really take that offset into account in my aiming. I just focus on a point, and throw.

Totally understandable.  I've been slinging for a little over 6 years and only started thinking about this about a month ago.  When I started intentionally making the position adjustment, it was just an attempt to adjust for a sling that had a really fast release.  It got me thinking about how others orient themselves when target slinging.


Glad to hear your input! Thumbs Up
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Reply #12 - Jun 28th, 2024 at 3:26pm
 
D - behind it, I'm a ninja.





(Ok C...) I've never tried to offset but I do imagine A in my head when I throw, it helps for very short range throwing.
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #13 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am
 
Currently turn 90 degrees (don't know if necessarily better but to be able to balance at the steep slopes where I currently throw), left foot first (in line with the target) and then sidearm. I try to aim more to the left though because the random ammunition (not consistant small rocks) tend to slice to the right.

If figure 8 then body angled more 45 degrees. Also straight in line with the target (target = big rock in the ocean).
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Re: How do you orient yourself in relation to the target when target-slinging?
Reply #14 - Jul 2nd, 2024 at 9:05pm
 
Klydd wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 6:41am:
Currently turn 90 degrees (don't know if necessarily better but to be able to balance at the steep slopes where I currently throw), left foot first (in line with the target) and then sidearm.

Is that your starting position or your release position?  Or both?
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