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Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland
Dec 19^th, 2023 at 1:05pm

Battlefield explored in Graubünden: Roman troops vs Raetians (I assume), ca. 15 BCE: evidence for engines and sling bullets used by Romans ! Clear concentration of fire on no doubt crucial points of the Raetian formation.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/swiss-roman-battle-site-reveals-hidden-sec...

(NB how the metal detectorists located the site, but then handed over to the archaeologists, who are using battlefield archaeology to plot the finds-- if the detectorists had just pocketed all the sling bullets, we would not be able to reconstruct the battle. Now we will know patterns of fire and probably distance of engagement !)

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Reply #1 - Dec 19^th, 2023 at 2:48pm

Ah, they are going at the crap ses again.
I'm glad to see that they are reinvestigating it!
There were already some findings in 2003/2004.
I think i posted that some time ago...
https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178569261

Jahrbuch der Schweizerischen Gesellschaft für Ur- und Frühgeschichte; 2004" pages 297-303

https://www.e-periodica.ch/cntmng?pid=adg-001%3A2003%3A0%3A%3A208

I occasionaly drive through there Cheesy

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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2023 at 5:18pm Teg how crap? I think the research is very good. I am involved in some tests.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2023 at 5:24pm Thearos, hier einige Bleifunde. Es sind sehr interessante Objekte dabei.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2023 at 6:00pm Teg. I believe There is an error in the translation
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Teg Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Posts: 1115 Central Europe Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #5 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 1:48am Jaegoor wrote on Dec 19^th, 2023 at 5:18pm: Teg how crap? I think the research is very good. I am involved in some tests. ... ... Crap-Ses-Schlucht Crap-Ses gorge. The defining geographical feature of this particular roman battlefield.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 3:45am Teg. Yes, I thought so.😜🤓
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #7 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 4:04am Here is an interesting object. What happened there?
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:19am In excavations, archeologists sometimes find such grooves in lead slingstones. They have no explanation.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #9 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:26am I have an explanation
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 5:31am Ok which one ?
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #11 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 6:01am https://youtu.be/JjjItoZsggM?si=EF8J8-FeTq_tycGu In a battle, fighters stand close to you. It is possible for a projectile to hit a blade. Or on the edge of a sign. I think an ax hit is likely. If the fighters stand in the shield wall, they have their axes raised.
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #12 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 7:28am Whaouhh ! Incredible shot ! If the patina is identical on the outside and inside, then the shock dates back to the time. Otherwise, it's much more recent. Plough share, for example. It may also be a bad storage in the soldier's bag. In any case, your hypothesis is credible.
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #13 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 8:43am A study in French to illustrate your idea, Jaeggor. The photos are interesting.
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2835 Gender:	Re: Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland Reply #14 - Dec 20^th, 2023 at 11:47am Gracias 🙏
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