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Roman-era battle in SE Switzerland
Dec 19th, 2023 at 1:05pm
 
Battlefield explored in Graubünden: Roman troops vs Raetians (I assume), ca. 15 BCE: evidence for engines and sling bullets used by Romans ! Clear concentration of fire on no doubt crucial points of the Raetian formation.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/swiss-roman-battle-site-reveals-hidden-sec...

(NB how the metal detectorists located the site, but then handed over to the archaeologists, who are using battlefield archaeology to plot the finds-- if the detectorists had just pocketed all the sling bullets, we would not be able to reconstruct the battle. Now we will know patterns of fire and probably distance of engagement !)
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Reply #1 - Dec 19th, 2023 at 2:48pm
 
Ah, they are going at the crap ses again.
I'm glad to see that they are reinvestigating it!
There were already some findings in 2003/2004.
I think i posted that some time ago...
https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178569261


Jahrbuch der Schweizerischen Gesellschaft für Ur- und Frühgeschichte; 2004" pages 297-303

https://www.e-periodica.ch/cntmng?pid=adg-001%3A2003%3A0%3A%3A208

I occasionaly drive through there Cheesy
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Reply #2 - Dec 19th, 2023 at 5:18pm
 
Teg how crap? I think the research is very good. I am involved in some tests.
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Reply #3 - Dec 19th, 2023 at 5:24pm
 
Thearos, hier einige Bleifunde. Es sind sehr interessante Objekte dabei.
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Reply #4 - Dec 19th, 2023 at 6:00pm
 
Teg. I believe There is an error in the translation
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Reply #5 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 1:48am
 
Jaegoor wrote on Dec 19th, 2023 at 5:18pm:
Teg how crap? I think the research is very good. I am involved in some tests.


...   Lips Sealed ...

Crap-Ses-Schlucht
Crap-Ses gorge. The defining geographical feature of this particular roman battlefield.
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Reply #6 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 3:45am
 
Teg. Yes, I thought so.😜🤓
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Reply #7 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 4:04am
 
Here is an interesting object. What happened there?
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Reply #8 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:19am
 
In excavations, archeologists sometimes find such grooves in lead slingstones. They have no explanation.
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Reply #9 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:26am
 
I have an explanation
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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 5:31am
 
Ok which one ?
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Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 6:01am
 
https://youtu.be/JjjItoZsggM?si=EF8J8-FeTq_tycGu

In a battle, fighters stand close to you. It is possible for a projectile to hit a blade. Or on the edge of a sign. I think an ax hit is likely. If the fighters stand in the shield wall, they have their axes raised.
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Reply #12 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 7:28am
 
Whaouhh ! Incredible shot !

If the patina is identical on the outside and inside, then the shock dates back to the time. Otherwise, it's much more recent. Plough share, for example.
It may also be a bad storage in the soldier's bag.
In any case, your hypothesis is credible.
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Reply #13 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 8:43am
 
A study in French to illustrate your idea, Jaeggor.
The photos are interesting.
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Reply #14 - Dec 20th, 2023 at 11:47am
 
Gracias 🙏
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