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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #15 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 10:06am

lobohunter wrote on Oct 27^th, 2023 at 3:57am:

I have used bicycle tubes as pouches before was right up with pastic to slippery for me. I prefer something that has more friction on the inside. Like leather or a good braided pouch.I feel it helps with accuracy

I haven't seen a list of what is good design and what is bad design. I've inferred a lot from offhand comments, but don't understand grippy vs slick pouches. Joe was worried that it would be too grippy and you didn't like it because it wasn't grippy enough. Can you explain a little?

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 1:36pm

That is good question
What I am talking about is the stone moving or rotating in the
Pouch
Some slingers this for either a spin or a more instant release
Or other reasons. I mostly sling at a shorter range with as muc
h power as I can muster
Slinging is often very intuitive and different slingers have
Different objectives
Fine the Slinging kit that works for you and perfect it

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 2:00pm

@jack

If you watch this sling throw in slow motion, the projectile kind "sticks' to the pouch for a while after the release cord is released. It takes about 16 milliseconds for the cord to get out of the way of the stone before it is completely free from the sling. Some slings will allow the stone to slip more than others. In this case, it is 'sticky' and starts the stone rolling which can actually stabilize the projectile and allow it to go straighter/further.

https://youtu.be/rEUM6-XarKM?si=RR_9upJZpaDTLU5B&t=5

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2023 at 4:48pm

Thanks, that makes sense.

I'm considering putting BDU material (military fatigues) on either side of the innertube. That might be a better surface. The fatigues are lightweight, rip-stop, no stretch and abrasion resistant. Gluing it on with Shoe Goo will probably leave the surface a little grippy. I think the innertube is going to hold fine by itself, but that BDU material should make it practically indestructible.

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #19 - Oct 28^th, 2023 at 2:51am

I used bicycle inner tubings often to wrap handles and stuff and really liked the material. After some time however I noticed that when the material is exposed to day light and under some strain, it will quickly develop small rips and tears until it falls apart. Without permanent strain that might not happen, but it might be wise examining the pouch now and then.

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lobohunter Interfector Viris Spurii Offline where be a rock and a string there be a sling Posts: 1970 Cottage Grove or Gender:	Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches Reply #20 - Oct 28^th, 2023 at 11:23am Another option is cutting the inner tube into thin straps And braiding a balearic style pouch I did that once and was surprised it had very little stretch
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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #21 - Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:04am

Update:

I've moved on for now. The innertube butterfly pouch actually worked pretty well but even doubled up I could easily pull the cord until the holes failed. I ended up attaching it like a seatbelt sling and it worked pretty well. I think there may still be some uses though. It would be fine for a seatbelt sling and I'm considering using it as a backing for airbag material. That airbag material is amazing, but it's too floppy so an innertube backing might make a good combo.

I got seatbelt material and I'm very happy with that for now. Whenever I get around to trying the innertube airbag combo I'll update. Probably not of much interest to many of you, but I like experimenting with materials that are basically trash.

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #22 - Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:34am

Jackparsonsproject wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:04am:

Probably not of much interest to many of you, but I like experimenting with materials that are basically trash.

It's interesting and very useful

Repurposing garbage into something useful is always a good idea, because it prevents waste and it allows you to make stuff for practically no cost.

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #23 - Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:36am

I think stretchy pouches in general might risk snagging projectiles on release, but it could work if it's tough rubber.

I've recently been looking into waterproof alternatives for the leather covering used on balearic slings. PVC or PU leather is one option, but a tough rubber material may also work. The issue then would be the stitching holes tearing.

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #24 - Nov 19^th, 2023 at 1:44pm

JudoP
Try airbag material. It's made to withstand glass flying at high speed and it's got to do that really well or the manufacturer gets sued.

I had to cut the airbag out with a serated blade. It had some rips from that and my friend tried to grab both sides of the rip and tear it further. No luck. He's almost supernaturallly strong and had long enough pieces to get a good grip and he couldn't rip it through even one more thread. That stuff is almost bulletproof. It's silicon coated nylon. Airbags can't be reloaded so they are worthless trash after one use. The junkyard didn't charge me for the airbag or the seatbelts.

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Sir Missalot Descens Offline almost always miss, occasionally by a mile Posts: 179 Midlands, South Kakalaki Gender:	Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches Reply #25 - Nov 21^st, 2023 at 2:31pm I made one from my son's neglected bike tire. I just used the seat belt sling method and it works just fine. It's in a coat pocket somewhere, but as soon as I come across it, I'll see how well it endured two years of pocket lint.
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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #26 - Nov 29^th, 2023 at 8:13am

I would use rubber cement to glue a thin canvas or denim on the back side so you get the grip but not the stretch. If you do that, it should hold an eyelet better too.

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Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches
Reply #27 - Nov 29^th, 2023 at 8:18am

Eino wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:34am:

Jackparsonsproject wrote on Nov 19^th, 2023 at 11:04am:

Probably not of much interest to many of you, but I like experimenting with materials that are basically trash.

It's interesting and very useful

Repurposing garbage into something useful is always a good idea, because it prevents waste and it allows you to make stuff for practically no cost.

…is it time to resurrect the trash sling challenge? The worst material I ever (successfully)used was cantaloupe rind 😂

https://youtu.be/NZk64NVig20?si=cRPxww2mSdk0tGiS

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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES! Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“ -Jesus the Noodler

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Eino Senior Member Offline Projecting stones with a cord-based device! Posts: 341	Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches Reply #28 - Nov 29^th, 2023 at 10:06am NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 29^th, 2023 at 8:18am: …is it time to resurrect the trash sling challenge? Ooh, yes, that sounds very fun! Great video, too.
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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3102 PA, USA	Re: Everything Inner Tube Pouches Reply #29 - Nov 29^th, 2023 at 10:35am @NooneOfConsequence - If you do, I'm in!
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