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Cigars vs Cigarettes
Jul 10th, 2023 at 11:55am
 
Do you feel that cigars are healthier than cigarettes? A friend of mine used to smoke cigarettes. He switched to cigars and says his blood pressure is fine now but whenever he smokes cigarettes it goes back up.

His opinion is that since cigarettes have added chemicals to them they are worse for you. What do you think?
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Reply #1 - Jul 10th, 2023 at 2:27pm
 
As a smoker of both, I'll throw my two cents in.  I think "healthier" is a somewhat misleading term.  I think these things just kill you in different ways.  One thing is correct.  Cigarettes absolutely have added chemicals in them.  Assuming the cigars we're talking about aren't the machine made things (like Swisher Sweets), there shouldn't be anything other than tobacco.

The other big thing to mention is the two are smoked differently.  Cigarettes are inhaled to get the quick nicotine hit.  Cigars are not inhaled, and intended to be smoked for flavor.  I remember having a discussion with a guy a long time ago and being told there's no point to inhaling a cigar because your lungs can't taste. Wink

That said, when smoking a cigar there's always going to be some smoke breathed into the lungs because there's a cloud of it floating around your head.  Ultimately both of these expose the mouth and lungs to smoke.  I would say that a cigar or two in a week would be less taxing on the lungs than a pack of cigarettes a day.
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Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2023 at 10:48am
 
   I have smoked both cigarettes, cigars, a pipe, and I've chewed tobacco.  Fortunately I've been free of such things for 35 years.  I think your friend is kidding himself.  If he wants to be healthy he should quit tobacco altogether.  Tobacco is a curse. 
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Reply #3 - Jul 11th, 2023 at 11:12am
 
@Joe - I think hes more at a cigar or two a day. But hes breathing is much better now. I imagine smoking a pack a day where its inhaled into the lungs must be worse than inhaling into the mouth at least from a respiratory point of view.

@RM- Yeah he probably is kidding himself a bit. But hes a salty sailor type and hes not going to change for anything lol. This man loves his cigars.
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Reply #4 - Jul 11th, 2023 at 12:37pm
 
Yeah, cigars will definitely give the lungs a little bit of a break.  A cigar or two a day is quite a bit though.  I do like one, maybe two a month.  If I'm at a party with cigar smoking friends, we might do a few in a night.  But then there's usually a break for a few weeks after that.  My cigarette use is also very casual.  I really only smoke if I'm having a beer or two.  A pack of cigarettes will usually last me a few weeks.  I usually end up throwing them out because they start tasting stale.
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Reply #5 - Jul 11th, 2023 at 1:42pm
 
   When my younger sister smoked she was the same way.  She'd smoke at the bar then not think about it for a few days.  I on the other hand was totally addicted.  I smoked two packs a day and if I partied, which I did often back then, it was up to four.  As I mentioned above I quit about 35 years ago.  If I smoked just one right now I'm sure I'd be full on addicted again.  In many of my dreams I still smoke.  It's a tough habit to break.
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Reply #6 - Jul 11th, 2023 at 9:59pm
 
Definitely tough to kick.  There's the physical addiction to the the nicotine itself.  And what might be harder to beat is just the physical action of smoking a cigarette.
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Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2023 at 12:56am
 
Yes, and there are so many actions one associates with smoking.  Smoking while drinking alcohol or coffee, smoking after making whoopie, smoking after a good meal, smoking during a work break, smoking while doing a #2, etc., etc., etc...  I quit countless times before it actually took for good.  My mom and I quit on the same day; November 19, 1988.  Sadly she didn't quit soon enough and eventually died of lung cancer. 
     This is a little off topic but it's something that amazes me.  One of the reasons I quit was the cost.  This was back in 1988 mind you when they cost much less than they do today.  Every poor person I know smokes.  They live in crap, don't have enough money for decent food, to pay their bills, or for gas in the car but they always have cigarettes.  They often can't afford a full pack so they sell each other "loosies" which are single cigarettes.  Nicotine/tobacco addiction is as strong as any narcotic addiction. 
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Reply #8 - Jul 12th, 2023 at 6:14am
 
I dont know how people smoke today. Cigarettes are ridiculously expensive now. My father-in-law I think smokes 2 packs a day. Love that man but no idea how he affords it.
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Reply #9 - Jul 14th, 2023 at 1:29pm
 
   Again this is a little off topic.  When I was in the 101st some of the guys in my platoon got sent down to Panama for Jungle Training.  I've never had a real Cuban cigar but when the guys got back they had Panamanian cigars.  I remember one of the brands was Wolf Brothers.  These were the best cigars I ever had.  They were rich, sweet, strong, and flavorful.  Cuban cigars are supposed to be better but that's hard to  imagine.
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Reply #10 - Jul 14th, 2023 at 6:52pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Jul 14th, 2023 at 1:29pm:
Cuban cigars are supposed to be better but that's hard to imagine.

Possibly true once upon a time, but today that's just an old wives' tale.  The Cuban embargo was started in 1962.  Once that happened, many of the best cigar makers left and started up again in other countries.

There's three things that will determine how good a cigar is.
  • The quality of the tobacco
  • The blend of the tobaccos used
  • The quality of the construction

I don't know any cigar smoker who would claim that Cuban cigars are the exclusive gold standard for any of these, certainly not all of them.  Now i don't mean to bash Cuban cigars.  I've had a few.  They were very nice and I enjoyed them.  But they're certainly not some magical thing that makes all others look like garbage.  My personal favorite country of origin for cigars is Nicaragua.
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