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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3425 PA, USA	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #30 - Jun 22^nd, 2023 at 10:31pm Here's my video trying out this style. https://youtu.be/dmTvGFJ6FFs
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StaffSlinger Senior Member Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 479 Florida	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #31 - Jun 24^th, 2023 at 10:53pm Great video, Joe! Underhand would work well if you were putting in a game of sling golf...
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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3425 PA, USA	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #32 - Jun 25^th, 2023 at 3:14pm Thanks! And yeah, I didn't think of that. If a slow and precise throw was needed for a close range target, underhand could certainly work.
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IronGoober Interfector Viris Spurii Offline ...and now, No. 1, the larch... Posts: 1763 California Gender:	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #33 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 12:46pm That is pretty cool, Joe. I'm surprised at how fast you were whipping those overhand throws. I'll have to give this a try.
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Reply #34 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 6:47pm

Thanks! I was surprised as well. That release knot hold got comfortable much faster than I expected it to.

Something else I'll drop in here. Sarosh (Acroballistics) left a comment on the video with the following:

I think the vase depicts a loop for release on the index finger instead of a knot between fingers. The loop on the index finger would then be released like an amentum attached to a javelin. I have tried such technique on darts with looped strings, the release is good and powerful as a normal knot and thumb grip release.(the video is titled "Is A Cord Enough?") at the time I used 2mm cord for the loop and it hurt a little on release. I will have to try that again on a sling.

I'm certainly not sure, but I think a release loop rather than a knot could very well be what's happening in the image. I'm going to try that method the next time I have a chance.

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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #35 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 9:06am My videos are not classy but I hope they are understandable. Straight shot. Usable in the woods and in the middle of a battle. For info, I tested in a wood, not in a battle.
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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3425 PA, USA	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #36 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 12:39pm Nice throw! You have much more of an underhand motion than I did. I think the sling you have is better suited to that. The sling I used was quite long and thin, so not good for building speed in a very short amount of time.
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Reply #37 - Jul 12^th, 2023 at 3:44am

2 different and good looks from 1 image, I find the exercise interesting.
Joe Meadmaker and I are agree on 2 points : the grip is soft and a short sling is better.
On the other hand, Joe opts for a complete rotation of the pelvis. Not me. Both are valid, everyone must seek what works for him.
For me, a short sling and a gesture entirely in the axis of the shot allows a use in the woods.
It also remind me of the Trajan column. Just a thought for a use in a battle.

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Reply #38 - Jul 14^th, 2023 at 10:52am

joe_meadmaker wrote on Jun 26^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Something else I'll drop in here. Sarosh (Acroballistics) left a comment on the video with the following:

I think the vase depicts a loop for release on the index finger instead of a knot between fingers. The loop on the index finger would then be released like an amentum attached to a javelin. I have tried such technique on darts with looped strings, the release is good and powerful as a normal knot and thumb grip release.(the video is titled "Is A Cord Enough?") at the time I used 2mm cord for the loop and it hurt a little on release. I will have to try that again on a sling.

Some pictures of different grips.

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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3425 PA, USA	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #39 - Jul 14^th, 2023 at 6:56pm The image in the lower right looks like a release loop, as Acro was describing.
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #40 - Jul 15^th, 2023 at 2:58am Yes There is an idea here to dig.
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StaffSlinger Senior Member Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 479 Florida	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #41 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 4:10pm Joe -- what's the source of that image? By the shape of the shield that's an 11-12th century Norman figure similar to the Bayeaux Tapestry...
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Reply #42 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 10:43pm

Quite so. It took a little searching, but I believe I found it.

According to https://historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=2264, the image is from a book written in the late 12th century called Liber ad honorem Augusti sive de rebus Siculis.

The article links a digital copy of the work. Here is a link to the specific page which shows the slinger: https://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/en/bbb/0120-2/132r/0/Sequence-2734

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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #43 - Jul 18^th, 2023 at 7:00am Thanks for your search, Joe Meadmaker. Tested this morning in a wood, this grip works very well. A bit like a fustibal but better mastered. We control the moment of release.
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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 839 france Gender:	Re: Greek style : Lecuyer Reply #44 - Aug 7^th, 2023 at 4:41am This style is not very powerful. But here's the result of an impact. A rock is my target. 2 photos of the peeble, before and after !
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