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Reply #60 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 6:28pm
 
I very much hope they dont try. The ball is in Russia's court right now. According to Putin anyone who tries to stop them will provoke a "response never seen in history."
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Reply #61 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 9:12pm
 
Donít worry, they wonít. But they should have never let it get to this point in the first place. Personally I think NATO should do something. The only response ďnever seen in historyĒ that they could possibly give is nuclear war, which would be insane to do over Ukraine. Wouldnít end too well for Russia.

The only thing more shocking than Putinís nerve is that people fall for his bluffing continuously. A clear line should have been drawn and he should have been humiliated if he crossed it.
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Reply #62 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 4:56am
 
Looks like the 3rd world war may have started.
Good luck everyone.†Stay safe and well.
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Reply #63 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 5:43am
 
Radiation levels around the area of Tsjernobyl shooting through the roof, 65000 nSV/h
https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#12/51.4156/30.2021/gamma/comp+cams+...
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Reply #64 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 8:05am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Feb 25th, 2022 at 5:43am:
Radiation levels around the area of Tsjernobyl shooting through the roof, 65000 nSV/h
https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#12/51.4156/30.2021/gamma/comp+cams+...


Wait, what?

I had to look this up myself.

https://youtu.be/6LFi1B7kv2Y

According to the video I saw they are saying its tanks moving over the ground churning up dust from the Chernobyl fallout. Of course "they" are often full of it but so far the levels dont seem immediately dangerous. At least not more so than the bombs that are falling. What is your view here J? You think they intentionally used a dirty bomb or something? That would be fairly drastic.

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Reply #65 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 8:25am
 
† †I have been ignoring the news. I'd rather not see this.
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Reply #66 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 3:18pm
 
Radiation levels are high but not exceptionally dangerous
What's more worrysome are the very recent as in minutes ago, reports and clips of Topol-M being spotted on the move in Russia.
The lights have gone out in Kyiv as the powerplant has been hit and the streams have supposedly stopped. Seems like they intend on taking the city tonight or tomorrow but I may be wrong
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Reply #67 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 3:27pm
 
If they cut Russia off from SWIFT, it's pretty much a done deal
they will retaliate Europe and US with major cyberattacks that will cripple our grid.
China will likely take Taiwan in the chaos that ensues
Other countries making bold moves.
who knows.
time for prayers.
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Reply #68 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Donít hold your breath for the end times, the Weat doesnít look to committed to doing much. Ukraine is only getting thoughts and prayers.

Cutting them off from SWIFT is the very least that should be done, and I canít imagine Russia didnít expect it. But the west isnít even committing to that.
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Reply #69 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 3:49am
 
We czechs know well that russians are occupiers. Ask my grandmother who lived through the 1968(she was 15 at the time) invasion of Czechoslovakia. Of course the russians fired on civilians. Actually the casualties were only civilian. The problem were never the russians themselves but their governments which were always poopy. Now this is happening again just a few hundred miles from my home.

As one czech saying goes: se sovětskżm svazem přiöla bŪda na zem(with the soviet union came misery to earth)
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Reply #70 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 7:02am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Feb 25th, 2022 at 3:27pm:
If they cut Russia off from SWIFT, it's pretty much a done deal
they will retaliate Europe and US with major cyberattacks that will cripple our grid.
China will likely take Taiwan in the chaos that ensues
Other countries making bold moves.
who knows.
time for prayers.



Well both sides have openly said if the other does so much as sneeze in their direction they will consider it an act of war so hypothetically I agree but the real question is are they bluffing and will either side do what they are stating they would do in terms of sanctions, cutting off funds or cyber attacks.
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Reply #71 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 9:52am
 
Morphy, Russia is bluffing. They canít fight a war with NATO or even a few NATO members. They donít have the strength. They can try cyberattacks, but if the rest of the world messes with them financially, they wonít be able to match it. We can sneeze in their direction all day. The issue is that the Western countries are pretty damn pathetic right now. Germany and Italy seem to care about fossil fuels more than democracy for 40+ million people. The US is so non-interventionist it hurts to watch. What keeps Russia a world power despite its weakness for its size is its audacity.
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Reply #72 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 10:19am
 
Have you forgotten their massive nuclear arsenal?
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Reply #73 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 2:08pm
 
Hirtius wrote on Feb 26th, 2022 at 9:52am:
What keeps Russia a world power despite its weakness for its size is its audacity.


Well said, if nothing else they are audacious.

I wouldnt count anyone out though. Russia may go down but they could do a lot of damage in the process. Especially partnered with China.
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Reply #74 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 9:54pm
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Feb 26th, 2022 at 10:19am:
Have you forgotten their massive nuclear arsenal?


Nukes donít count for much if using them means the end of the world. I doubt they would commit suicide over Ukraine.


The goal wouldnít be to take Russia down, but to expel them from Ukraine.
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