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One of the best inventions in the world
Jan 1st, 2022 at 11:18am
 
And it's called the kelly kettle ! I recently came across this product and was sold on it immediately.
It is excellent for when the grid goes down because it allows you to quickly boil water with minimal fuel.
It burns very efficiently as it is a rocket stove and it is also very stealthy compared to an open fire.

Now I still want to make a distillation kit for it and it'd be perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YACn-EurqzQ
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2022 at 11:23am
 
That's an interesting idea. I might hazard it's importantly distinct from a rocket stove, the efficiencies of the design are different. The water isn't...insulating the combustion like in a rocket stove. BUT. The water is thin and spread out all around the combustion so it will absorb the heat from the flame very nicely. And the heat stored in the water may start providing some higher heat. It might also help keep the metal chimney from burning out.

That's a really interesting idea.
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2022 at 2:00pm
 
I like it. That’s quite ingenious. Is there an easy way to clean the water chamber?
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Reply #3 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:25am
 
I was almost going to get one of these but problems arise if they are used without water so it didn’t quite suit my application.
I went with a biolite camp stove , was a great buy and has been super good to me . I got thefirst edition and there up to the third edition now I think.
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Reply #4 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 6:38am
 
I got mine solely for boiling water, so I skipped all the other accessoires that allow you to cook on top of it.

I was thinking of all kinds of ways how I could boil water as efficiently and with as little wood as possible. I tried all kinds of setups over open fires, dakota fire holes and many kinds of hobo stoves. I quickly learned that if I had to boil my required water needs over an open fire it would take quite a lot of prep, fuel and produce a lot of smoke and attention.  The dakota hole also doesn't suit my needs, requiring too much work when on the move to do every time and the soil here is to soggy.
Hobo stoves are excellent, and simple to make, and redirects the heat really well on the bottom of my bottle. The ones I made burn efficiently, with little pieces of scrap wood and minimal remains. Then I came across this Kelly Kettle and it blew me away as it takes this concept even further, with the water all around instead of only being heated from the bottom.  It allows you to boil your daily required water needs (one time in the morning and one time in the evening with the large pot) quickly with minimal -free fuel- and I am good to go.

This combined with a well made distillation kit would be perfect. I am  still figuring out how to do it properly. The coil will have to be cooled with water. It would be cool if I could get the coil inside another unit that I can refill. Too bad there is no commercial kit readily available. I really, really like the concept of distillation because you can utilize tremendous water potential. However even if I don't succeed in this idea I still love the kelly kettle for what it is
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Reply #5 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 11:53am
 
I have used it a few times now (only have it for a week) and it works just great. It boils water incredibly quick with only a few scraps of wood. It's incredible how efficient it is compared to boiling water over an open fire. That said I can understand it's not perfect for cooking on top of, if you want to do that I would recommend something else. Because it does need to have water in there constantly if you want to cook. But the problem is if you keep the water in there and keep adding wood for the fire, it will overboil and throw up the water.

I can accurately judge how much fuel I need to put in there to achieve a rolling boil , so that when it starts boiling, the fire inside is already almost down to coals and at this point i don't add any more wood.  Just let it the boil go for a few minutes this way for disinfection and let the embers die out. Every time I do it I am still shocked by how little wood I need to gather. A good handful of kindling is now all I need. This kit is excellent for those who want to be self sufficient.  You will never run out of fuel.
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Reply #6 - Jan 4th, 2022 at 9:59pm
 
Really cool J!  As a point solution for boiling water it seems perfect. 

I’ve always wanted to do a super thin rocket stove using aerogel as an insulator.  It would be ridiculously efficient and compact, but it would be even more ridiculously expensive for all that aerogel Grin
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