Sarosh wrote on Oct 11
th, 2021 at 9:00am:
I dont know if you read it all.
the idea is to escape to wilderness. when I posted this my country had measures that made that illegal. Following a covid quarantine pattern every 2 weeks they renewed the measures prohibiting access to wilderness without making any decent effort to fight what caused the problem(fire), fearmongering or top down terrorism won again. it's like training to be afraid what you are told to be afraid of. The question was any countries that dont do that? based on governments and peoples response to covid.
areas with very low population density like deserts and tundra means that these kind of measures cannot be enforced so they win by default.
the more interesting is to find a place in the temperate zone that has people but the government doesn't interfere too much in their lives.
capitalist countries are adopting the worst practices of socialism willingly, if we are going socialist we need a plan or we end up totalitarian, I see no plans so...
I'm sorry you can't do that in your country, my comment was slightly tongue in cheek anyway. I think anywhere there are humans people will gather into society and make rules, laws, norms that help the society work better. The only way to escape that is to escape other humans.
I personally see no danger of socialism. There is a tension between public health benefit and individual personal freedoms in my view, that is all. It is a compromise like many complex issues.
Morphy wrote on Oct 11
th, 2021 at 3:52pm:
Looking back on this thread I wonder if covid is really even the issue. Perhaps this is the real issue. That is the ability to argue that we are actually heading in that direction. If you cant convince people that there is a real danger of approaching totalitarianism virtually nothing else you say matters.
With my comment I tried to hit at the heart of the matter- freedom vs social behaviour.
I don't see any danger of totalitarianism in this. Indeed not even close. There have been pandemics before, measures taken before, temporary constrictions of freedom.
From my perspective in the UK it seems that the PM was always keen to remove the measures as soon as possible, even before it was wise to in my view. There was clearly democratic pressure to do so, this is working as intended no?
I have a friend who left this country because he was worried about the restrictions. I think in the fullness of time this will prove to be unnecessary.
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