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Jul 1st, 2021 at 2:24pm
 
Greetings friends. I don't know if it has ever been posted but I will post a video that I found very interesting about the Balearic Islands slings, and their use in ancient warfare.
as a passionate about ancient and medieval war history and strategy and a total war game player, I also posted an interesting article on the history of slings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDtrwNY0Zk&t=562s

As a passionate about ancient and medieval war history and strategy and a total war game player, I also post an interesting article about the history of slings and the time when they were the best and most fearsome projectile weapons of antiquity:
http://ancient-battles.com/warriors/ancient-slingers.php

Whoever is interested too, there are the king and generals and history march channels on youtube that tell the stories of the wars and put us inside the battlefield, showing us what the wars were like. interesting to see our beloved slingers perform and learn some history.

Thank you for your attention.
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Reply #1 - Jul 2nd, 2021 at 8:38am
 
Welcome to the forum!

That video has been posted before.† I did enjoy it.† Here's is one of the other threads in case you're interested in seeing what some of the others had to say: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1596996631.

Thanks for the link to the article.† That's a long one!† I didn't have a chance to read through it yet but I definitely will later.
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2021 at 2:39am
 
Welcome! Have you done much slinging yourself or are you just interested in the history? The history of the sling is really fascinating.
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2021 at 12:27pm
 
BOTH.
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2021 at 3:13pm
 
Fundeiro88 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2021 at 12:27pm:
BOTH.

That's the right answer! Cheesy Now you are truly welcome Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2021 at 4:51pm
 
As a new slinger I would be interested to know if the sling was ever used in Wales. My uneducated attempts at online research have been disappointed. I found limited info on Irish and Scottish slings, but Wales seems to be missing out   Sad

Any experts out there who could point me in a good direction? I'd be very grateful - I'm in way over my head
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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2021 at 3:39am
 
Slings were most definitely used in Wales, as slings might have exceeded the importance of the bow across Iron Age Europe.

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/iatl/reinvention/archive/volume7issue2/swan/


However, I think youíll run into problems finding Wales specific evidence. There have been a few cases of sling projectiles found, but they generally seem pretty ignored. There are almost no pictures.

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https://museum.wales/collections/online/object/97d4f024-8dfb-371a-a42d-d1dcb1606
c8e/Iron-Age--Roman-stone-sling-shot/

However, I was able to find a few pictures with one definite sling bullet. These possible Roman ďballista ballsĒ are actually the size of large sling stones. How do we know these are sling stones? We donít, except for one. One of the pictures has a biconical (American football) shape, which is one of the most aerodynamic shapes and a good indicator of a sling stone.

https://museum.wales/collections/online/object/771c7786-68d0-353e-aabc-a44d75e22
e91/Roman-stone-ballista-ball/

As of now, this is the best Iíve seen. I donít know why there isnít much of any data from Iron Age sites (lack of welsh archaeological interest?). However, we get a lot more evidence during the Roman period. For lack of any better evidence, itís probably a safe bet that sling usage was fairly similar to all the neighboring regions, probably lasting throughout the medieval period and possibly into fairly recent times.
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Reply #7 - Jul 19th, 2021 at 8:40am
 
The problem with historical accounts of slinging is that slings were so commonplace and widely used that historians took it for granted and never really mentioned them in contemporary accounts.

It would be a bit like anyone reading an account of life in our times.

There would be fleeting mentions of 'mobiles', 'cellphones' and 'smartphones'.
But no real information as to what they actually were, what they did and their Massive role in current soceity.
Or indeed that every single human being was assumed to own one, or why.

Slings were at one time as ubiquitious and widespred an everyday item as the smartphone is today.

Which is why there are so few detailed mentions of them in historical texts.
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Reply #8 - Jul 20th, 2021 at 3:14am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Jul 19th, 2021 at 8:40am:
The problem with historical accounts of slinging is that slings were so commonplace and widely used that historians took it for granted and never really mentioned them in contemporary accounts.


I was thinking the other day that there should be a book describing the sling and it's use in the library of alexandria but it isn't anymore... Sad
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Reply #9 - Jul 21st, 2021 at 1:58pm
 
Thought I'd share this email I recevied from Dr Toby Driver, an aerial archaeologist and senior investigator of the Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales:

"Dear Brian

Thank you for your email to the Enquiry Team here.

Sling shot were a common weapon in pre-Roman Wales. A simple web search for ĎIron Age slingshotí will bring up many useful results of things to read and longer studies. There are also videos of them being used. Wales was not a distinct region until medieval times, so a lot of the research comes from Iron Age Britain; however Harold Mytumís studies were focussed on discoveries from Castell Henllys, west Wales.

There is a specialist £25 book on the subject, reviewed here:

http://www.prehistoricsociety.org/files/reviews/Sling_Warfare_Mytum_Final.pdf

I also have a section on Iron Age slingshot in west Wales in my new book about the hillforts of Cardigan Bay, out in September:

https://logastonpress.co.uk/product/hillforts-of-cardigan-bay/

Hopefully youíll find some information to get you started"
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