Morphy wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 7:53pm:


Primitive technology is fairly legit. He's not a good slinger, but he shows all of his misses and is actually aiming at a target. You at least get effort. Everything he does is the old fashion way, so I can respect it. Funny that you mentioned that he might die, because there's actually a spoof about that. The weapon that leads to death is, go figure, a sling.

The reason I don't respect most all of these survivalists is that they're preparing for a fantasy situation, and much of it is useless without some prerequisite tool (that often the survivalists are also selling). Got lost in the forest without your knife/machete/hatchet/saw? I guess you're already dead.

I feel like the only true "survival" video would just show someone walking a few miles to find the nearest road or people. Somehow I still see them saying "Go to my website and buy your very own 'survival walking stick'".

Morphy wrote on Apr 24^th, 2021 at 11:03am:

Well simple overhand(the one timpa does for accuracy) is actually pretty decent for accuracy and power especially with large stones for being overhand, I have tried it and it worked decently well, but this one where you spin it from my testing makes it just worse.

Though this is not that bad, compared to misinformation you can find this is actually good. There is some "expert information" I found on some czech survivalist website a good while ago that is much much much muuuuuuuch worse and more dangerous. I don't think the website still operates because the instructions on there were very dangerous and I can't find it anymore. For example using the sling, they said you have to spin it as fast as you can over your head then release it. Most people here think that you somehow by magic accumulate energy by spinning it like a madman and when you release the knot the stone flies far because of all the energy you put into the spinning(treating the spin like stretching ruber from slingshots. Also notice there is no mention of the most important part of the throw: the throw).

Up now:

https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1619341496/0#0

well it does have the 'greek' start.
which is pouch held at roughly head height in the opposite hand to the cords and the pouch in front of the head.
Which is what is depicted on all the urns.

We have absolutely no clue what they did after that.
So a 'greek' style throw is categorised solely by it's starting point. 

And it is a pure overhand throw.

So yep, logically, that is greek overhand.

I wouldn't say forward rotations are always bad. I'm a big supporter of Bambula's version of Fig.8 which has forward rotations but then goes into "proper" Fig.8 technique. I've found it pretty comfortable to use and almost understand why he thought it was different to regular Fig.8 It does seem to help (me at least) really open up my chest to get a strong overhead throw.

czechslinger1.0 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 4:40am:


My favorite are sling accuracy tutorial videos that dont actually tell you much of anything. "How you sling" is not the same thing as individual principles that apply to all throws that make you accurate. Just saying do this with this foot or twist here is not going to suddenly make someone know how to sling better.

You might have a throw and know how to do that throw in such a way as to be able to teach someone to mimic your movements and also attain accuracy. Thats all well and good and very helpful and I mean that.

But what few people on these videos seem to discuss is that its not one style that makes you accurate. There are actual, legitmate points in a throw which cause greater or lesser degrees of controlability and repeatability.

These concepts and principles once understood can be applied to many throwing styles. So rather than just teaching one style as the route to accuracy these princples need to be taught as indvidual throw mechanics and then these princples can be plugged into your throw of choice to get good accuracy into that throw. And they are not silly platitudes like "empty your mind" or " feel the stone" . They are actual real concepts based on movement and biomechanics that are very specfic and make perfect sense once understood.

Anyways here I go again. I just love the topic. Just bonk me on the head when I get going to reset my OS. 

Morphy wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 11:37am:

That's exactly what I tell people to do.   

Well, not exactly.  My line for a complete beginner is usually something like, "Don't try to time the release, because you'll be wrong.  Release when you feel the stone (or whatever) moving forward."

Yeah, I'm totally with ya.  When I read that I just started laughing so hard.