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Question: Favorite Target Sling Length
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18-20”    
  1 (5.6%)
20-22”    
  2 (11.1%)
22-24”    
  1 (5.6%)
24-26”    
  6 (33.3%)
24-26”    
  1 (5.6%)
26-28”    
  5 (27.8%)
28-30”    
  1 (5.6%)
32-34”    
  0 (0.0%)
34-36”    
  0 (0.0%)
Other, please specify    
  1 (5.6%)




Total votes: 18
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Reply #75 - May 6th, 2021 at 6:31pm
 
That does sound quite fun Czech. I would love to bring out the old cannon sling and throw 2 lb stones at pig carcasses to see the damage from 100 m. Bet it still caused crazy amounts of damage.
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Reply #76 - May 6th, 2021 at 11:00pm
 
czechslinger1.0 wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
Speaking of accuracy, I would also want to see someone hitting man sized target from 100m, if there are any of you who could try it, who are both powerful enough and accurate enough to hit it. I

When I get to practice, I often sling at a rock (a bit bigger than a head) at ~100m but rarely hit it. I don't think a man sized target at 100m would too difficult to hit with lead glandes, but with stones it is a tricky shot. I actually know a good field for such a test, but clay glandes and a specialised long-range sling would be in order. The flatter the trajectory, and the more consistent the ammo, the easier the shot is to make.
I remember watching a short video of Luis slinging at a Balearic target from 70m and hitting it a few times. He would be perfect for such a test if he was available. 
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Reply #77 - May 7th, 2021 at 12:10am
 
Archaic Arms wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:00pm:
I remember watching a short video of Luis slinging at a Balearic target from 70m and hitting it a few times.

Do you have a link to that video? I don't think I've seen that one.
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Reply #78 - May 7th, 2021 at 10:12pm
 
IronGoober wrote on May 7th, 2021 at 12:10am:
Archaic Arms wrote on May 6th, 2021 at 11:00pm:
I remember watching a short video of Luis slinging at a Balearic target from 70m and hitting it a few times.

Do you have a link to that video? I don't think I've seen that one.

I believe I saw it on his Instagram account when I still had it.
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Reply #79 - May 14th, 2021 at 12:12pm
 
just an observation. there is a small problem with the scoring. I think hitting a 1m target @100m is more difficult than hitting a 10cm @10m. (both awesome)
The way things are there is more incentive for close range and small targets, the difficulty distance adds is a little mismatched with the resulting score.
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Reply #80 - May 14th, 2021 at 12:25pm
 
Sarosh wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
just an observation. there is a small problem with the scoring. I think hitting a 1m target @100m is more difficult than hitting a 10cm @10m. (both awesome)
The way things are there is more incentive for close range and small targets, the difficulty distance adds is a little mismatched with the resulting score.


This is understood, but I would not label it a “problem” so much as a limitation. It would be silly to compare the two examples you give, but the scoring system is wonderful for comparing two slightly different target sizes at 100m and 110m.   As long as the comparisons are close, they don’t have to be exactly the same, and that’s what makes this system valuable.
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Reply #81 - May 14th, 2021 at 3:47pm
 
I think we may have discussed this earlier in the thread but Im too lazy to look. You are correct though.

That being said the purpose of the ADI scoring system is to let everyone target shoot on a level playing field even if they dont have a perfect Balearic target and range. With this way everything out to I would say 25 meters regardless of target size or type can be looked at totally objectively without wondering how one days slinging compares to the next.

If 25 is too much then certainly 20 but I think 25 is pretty safe to include.  Its a very helpful tool though.
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Reply #82 - May 14th, 2021 at 4:33pm
 
I discussed this in private with some forum members.
Area isn’t taken into consideration
Neither is ammo size
But really any distance between 10-30m (like competition) and ammo no larger than tennis ball and it works out in the wash.
I’m surprised how consistent my scores can be . With a few good and bad rounds but pretty good for analysis.

Actually I found that if you are doing an official round (20 uncut throws) you get your score. Let’s say 12.7 points
Well I’ve found that that number almost always gives you a distance that you should consistently be able to keep your groups within a 1 meter diameter. 5/5 shots should be easily achievable at that distance on a 1m circle.

So 20 shots on target at whatever distance
Do the math and get the score
Use score as new distance
Should easily do a 5/5 round at that distance on 1 m circle

Although there’s clear flaws in the scoring it’s actually a really good tool for self improvement
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Reply #83 - May 14th, 2021 at 4:56pm
 
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Reply #84 - May 16th, 2021 at 4:08am
 
Mersa wrote on May 14th, 2021 at 4:33pm:
I discussed this in private with some forum members.
Area isn’t taken into consideration
Neither is ammo size



the easiest solution for area is to calculate the diameter of the circle with the same area and use that. A stick and disk of the same area are completely different in my opinion so I would stick to squares or disk shaped targets. 

I think ammo size can change the difficulty a lot at short ranges and small targets but with distance the effect will be nullified, that's another reason distance should affect score more even though the  distance/Ř ratio is the same.

The way of scoring as it is, is pretty simple and easy to use I agree.

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Reply #85 - May 16th, 2021 at 7:58am
 
Gentlemen... I have an important issue that I feel can no longer be ignored...

The top "Official" score is 14.2, attained by our most venerable and prestigious Jaegoor. Now, this is a good score. But, this is also Slinging.Org.

We have quite an assortment of slingers here. Are we all happy with that score being the best we can post? Jaegoor, are you happy with that score???

I challenge you all to go and destroy that score. 14.2 is good but it can be even higher!

Men, Women, Children, go forth and beat that score! Yada yada yada. some additional motivating phrases. Blah blah. Ok. Get to it!!!  Cheesy
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Reply #86 - May 17th, 2021 at 1:03am
 
I plan on making a 20m video with my 'diana' target, but then stuff like this happens repeatedly:
https://youtu.be/S6DSgMjLxNs
How do you adjust the sights on a sling again?
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Reply #87 - May 17th, 2021 at 1:27am
 
Upon reviewing the full video, hypothetically if the target had been to the left slightly then out out 20 shots I would have got at least 15 points, and with all 24 shots I would have got at least 21 points (last three were all diana's). A good number of the misses were abysmal and I had more than usual, so I would definitely would not consider it my best slinging...
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Reply #88 - May 17th, 2021 at 8:32am
 
Morphy wrote on May 16th, 2021 at 7:58am:
The top "Official" score is 14.2, attained by our most venerable and prestigious Jaegoor.

WHAT??  I thought this was like golf and a lower score was better!  Wink

I've done a few more rounds but haven't topped my best accuracy yet.  The last couple rounds I actually dropped off a bit so I've taken a break from it.  I'll be getting back to this soon.


@Albion - Good slinging man!  I've also had times with the "consistent miss".  Very frustrating.
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Reply #89 - May 17th, 2021 at 8:43am
 
Oh shoot then if thats the case Joe Im sitting pretty at my ADI of zero!!!

Albion, you got the grouping down man. Thats the hard part. Next time you are grouping to the left like that note your foot and body position then with each shot start with your stance a little to the right until the grouping comes on target.

A sling throw can be tuned to change POI just like bows or guns can be tuned. You can also use slightly heavier stones or focus on pulling into the powerstroke slightly before your current point.

The easiest to see instant results though would be to alter your stance. Try it, its pretty amazing how fast the groups will edge over to the target.
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