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Reply #45 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 7:04pm
 
Can't they also be made of lead? I'm sure you could cast it as one piece!  Grin
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Reply #46 - Apr 5th, 2021 at 8:00pm
 
This thread is rapidly spinning outside of any humble vision I had for a contest...this is crazy guys. Crazy in the best way.  Cheesy
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Reply #47 - Apr 6th, 2021 at 4:37am
 
Wow
CA they look awesome.
Just chuck a few of those in my sith parcel as a sweetener???
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Reply #48 - Apr 6th, 2021 at 5:08am
 
Cool! I definitely want to see them in action.
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Reply #49 - Apr 6th, 2021 at 8:01am
 
Pretty sure the only way to actually see them in action is to be the person slinging them.
They are for distance, so even a high resolution video will lose track after about 100 metres.

I'll make some more tonight as there's just no way I'll be able to find and retrieve these after throwing.
I'll make some pla blades as that's a lot more environmentally friendly and can even be ingested without causing harm. Well dream's crunched enough prints up over the years.

For the smoke glandes I'll use a smaller 50x30 mould and a simple recess rather than a complete through hole. Pretty sure I've got a bag of fuse paper around somewhere.

My only concern with the jet gkandes flight profile is that the back end is heavier than the front. I'm hoping the thrust will compensate and either give it more altitude of push it straight.
We'll see Smiley
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Reply #50 - Apr 8th, 2021 at 9:57am
 
I don't know if they are abstract enough but here's some https://youtu.be/RtaJFry50Ps
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Reply #51 - Apr 8th, 2021 at 10:05am
 
I have an idea for a simple one, and one that could hopefully replace the shotgun sling as a reasonable and more effective solution but havent bothered to make it yet.

The one that I really think will change target slinging forever will be autostop ammo. Ammo that can be slung a known distance and then causes serious drag to drop it mid air parachute style. It will allow people to have actual expensive sets of premimum ammo without fear of losing them. Backstops will no longer be needed to be a serious target slinger. Target slinging will be possible anywhere within reason at any time. But so far no one has come up with the answer.

As it stands that is the one thing that prevents me from practicing all the time. This absolutely maddening pattern of making or buying perfect ammo and despite ridiculous lengths taken to find them all they eventually all disappear. What a PITA.
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Reply #52 - Apr 8th, 2021 at 10:19am
 
Sarosh wrote on Apr 8th, 2021 at 9:57am:
I don't know if they are abstract enough but here's some https://youtu.be/RtaJFry50Ps


Definitely abstract enough.
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Reply #53 - Apr 8th, 2021 at 8:50pm
 
Those are great, Sarosh!  I like the one with the fins. It makes me think that a mechanical broadhead (similar to archery, but heavier) for the sling would actually be a pretty decent projectile.

Clearly, you'd really need to hone your skill to have a rifled release each time.

It makes me wonder if a stiffer sling would be warranted for your testing (along the lines of J's latest musings).  It might help with getting a rifled release.
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Reply #54 - Apr 8th, 2021 at 9:13pm
 
Nice Sarosh!  Wicked looking stuff!
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Reply #55 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 6:09am
 
thanks!
IronGoober wrote on Apr 8th, 2021 at 8:50pm:
It makes me wonder if a stiffer sling would be warranted for your testing (along the lines of J's latest musings).  It might help with getting a rifled release.


sure, the sling is paracord and is a little long for the task. I don't have a good split pouch right now so I went with it.

IronGoober wrote on Apr 8th, 2021 at 8:50pm:
I like the one with the fins. It makes me think that a mechanical broadhead (similar to archery, but heavier) for the sling would actually be a pretty decent projectile.


I thought the fins could be replaced by blades, but as you've seen opening by spin destabilizes it, so it's better to go for a design more similar to a mechanical broadhead that opens on impact.
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Reply #56 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 9:30pm
 
Sarosh wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 6:09am:
I thought the fins could be replaced by blades, but as you've seen opening by spin destabilizes it, so it's better to go for a design more similar to a mechanical broadhead that opens on impact.

Agreed, that is what I was thinking.

I also wonder the simplest way to design something that pushes a flag or something out of the back so it can be found if it buries itself in the ground, it would be great for long distance slinging. I have some ideas, but none that I like.  The main one being a brightly colored ribbon in a central hole in the gland and a primer that fires and ejects the ribbon when the point is hit. A spring might be able to replace the primer, so it's reusable, but I haven't come up with a simple/robust enough trigger and locking mechanism.
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Reply #57 - Apr 9th, 2021 at 10:10pm
 
Nice work Sarosh, great video as always
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Reply #58 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 3:24am
 
IronGoober wrote on Apr 9th, 2021 at 9:30pm:
The main one being a brightly colored ribbon in a central hole in the gland and a primer that fires and ejects the ribbon when the point is hit. A spring might be able to replace the primer, so it's reusable, but I haven't come up with a simple/robust enough trigger and locking mechanism.


I have tried ribbon(string) on rebar most of the time it released smoothly other times it catches with the sling. It helps A LOT with finding the ammo.
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Reply #59 - Apr 10th, 2021 at 3:48am
 
I made this a few years back from a plumb bob and I remember it working well and leaving a gnarly dent in the frying pan target (photo evidence provided), but when I tried it again more recently, I could NOT get it to fly straight point forwards. Didn't matter what orientation I had it in the pouch it just wouldn't go point first. *Shrug*
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