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Reply #135 - Jul 18th, 2021 at 1:12pm
 
All the corn are formed by hand. I tried using one of the CA original designs to mold, but the corn is too big, HOWEVER! Finer\smaller grains\finer bird seed  WILL work in CA moulds. Just have to be sure to properly dust\spray the inside of the mould before adding the mixture to compress.

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Reply #136 - Jul 18th, 2021 at 4:10pm
 
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Obviously this has gone on longer than initially expected. Im kinda hoping we see a few more designs. Oh well, plenty of time left in 2021. Perhaps we should leave it going a bit longer? If anyone feels differently please let me know thanks.
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Reply #137 - Jul 18th, 2021 at 7:21pm
 
I think the question can be answered pretty easily.  Is anyone else still planning to create a submission for this challenge?  If you are, drop in a post on this topic.

I'm with you Morphy.  If there are still any designs coming, I'd love to see them.
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Reply #138 - Jul 19th, 2021 at 12:04pm
 
joe_meadmaker wrote on Jul 18th, 2021 at 7:21pm:
I think the question can be answered pretty easily.† Is anyone else still planning to create a submission for this challenge?† If you are, drop in a post on this topic.

I'm with you Morphy.† If there are still any designs coming, I'd love to see them.


Ok great! Just wanted to make sure. This thread is so interesting to me and I know for a fact there are several prototypes that are quite fascinating if the respective people can get them up and running. In this case longer might be better and dont you say it you dirty , dirty man you!   Cool  Roll Eyes
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Reply #139 - Jul 19th, 2021 at 1:04pm
 
That's what she...oh wait.....never mind.† †Wink
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Reply #140 - Jul 19th, 2021 at 1:19pm
 
I am desperate for sling stones because I started† smashing up old bricks and tiles from the rubble pile to cast
They actually sling remarkably well.† The trick is a light sling with a flat pouch and 200+ gram stones to make up for the bad shape, because the stones themselves have tremendous friction
Real sling stones Im all out of. I still have the occasional clay but mostly I am slinging rubble and the hammer has become my best ammo making tool.† In about 10 minuts I have 2 buckets full of rubble ready to sling

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Reply #141 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 8:07pm
 
Hmmm. Plastic easter eggs with 3/8" steel balls and tanerite??? Legal, or probably not? Hahaha
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Reply #142 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 8:09pm
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 19th, 2021 at 1:19pm:
I am desperate for sling stones because I started† smashing up old bricks and tiles from the rubble pile to cast
They actually sling remarkably well.† The trick is a light sling with a flat pouch and 200+ gram stones to make up for the bad shape, because the stones themselves have tremendous friction
Real sling stones Im all out of. I still have the occasional clay but mostly I am slinging rubble and the hammer has become my best ammo making tool.† In about 10 minuts I have 2 buckets full of rubble ready to sling


I have stones all over, and would be willing to collect and send for shipping costs
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Reply #143 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 7:01am
 
The fixed distance glande.
Well the concept is 100% sound.
Just really fiddly and the parachutes would be a real sod to make.
Plus getting really smooth bearings is crucial and I ran out of enthusiasm lol.
It's a short window, if I don't have a working prototype in 2-3 days I tend to lose focus.

If anyone's got access to an SlS or binderjet printer, then you'd have no problem making them.
Thinking nooc or judopete here.

The idea is pretty simple.
You have a hollow glande in two parts, with a shaft through the middle. So you can fill the shell with clay or something similar and then screw it together.
You then have inserts.
Each insert comprises of a tube with spiral threads.
You then have a cartridge with bearings that engage the threads. The back of the cartridge has a parachute, it also has slanted air intakes.

By adjusting how many turns there are in the spiral track you can control how long it takes for the cartridge to travel through the centre of the glande.
When the cartridge runs through and the end protudes from the the back air is forced through the intakes, which pushes the parachute out the back and stops the glande.

It sounds complicated, but it's only one moving part.
The parachute cartridges are all the same, you just change the threaded inserts for different distance glandes.

Obviously (lol) the track stops before the parachute cartridge falls out and the inserts lock in to main glande body.

It's a pretty simple concept, but it does rely on really good bearings and very smooth tracks.

The actual design process is not complicated. But for a smallish glande an fdm printer us going to struggle.
Plus to make it seriously tough and virtually unbreakable, it all needs to be made from polyurethane, and that doesn't print totally smooth as it's prone to stringing.
An SlS machine using nylon would make them just as tough and have no issues with the required precision.

I'm pretty sure if you can make them that they will work. The parachute is the only thing that might break and also the fiddliest to make

So anyway, that's that idea.

At the moment my vote is definitely for the edible/biodegradable glandes.
I love those Smiley
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Reply #144 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 1:33am
 
Well CA Iím pleased to say that initial test seems pretty good on the jet glande. Not sure exactly if itís created thrust but definitely flys point first!!
Iíll continue testing
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Reply #145 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 3:31am
 
So for the record I sent all the turbo glande kit to mersa as part of the world record delayed sith package Smiley

Looks good !

My problem was that I just wasn't sure they were flying fan first or not lol

Keep playing mate, it's such a good idea it has to work whistle

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Reply #146 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 1:24pm
 
Clay diabolo "pellets"
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Reply #147 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 4:33am
 
Oooo I really want to see how these do.
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Reply #148 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 5:14pm
 
Giant airgun pellets !
I've used all of those Smiley

Interesting to see how they fly
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Reply #149 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:30am
 
They fly very straight. The bottom cavity can also be painted inside so you that can see them at all times (This would be particularly beneficial for metal versions). Had the idea while making "Cortaillod" projectiles (of which there is some resemblance).
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