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Mar 13th, 2021 at 1:15pm
 
I been working on this masterwork. I can't state enough how good this sling works for me, the way I use it.
I've never seen any historical sling ever build like this.  The core consists of a thin 3-ply twisted hemp cord. The split pouch and fingerloop are spliced. I've overlaid very thin tight twisted hemp cord whipping over the complete length of the sling. Done very tight and with care. It' has made the sling very twist resistant and extremely snappy and responsive. By far the best feeling sling I have ever used. It feels super efficient. It felt it deserves its own thread. It's rifles baseballs, tennisballs, clayballs like a laser, and biconicals perfect every time. I don't feel like settling for anything less ever again, she is a medium 75 cms long. I got to make a video on it. I am definitely going to make more of these.
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Reply #1 - Mar 13th, 2021 at 1:25pm
 
Looking great!
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Reply #2 - Mar 13th, 2021 at 1:40pm
 
   Nice.  I've often considered whipping over the entire sling but never did because I was afraid it would make the sling too stiff.  Apparently not.
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Reply #3 - Mar 13th, 2021 at 1:46pm
 
I used a very fine thread for the whipping, and the diameter of the central twisted 3 ply core is quite small, about 2-3 mm.

It's a very unique way to get round, thin, yet stiff natural cords, outside  the traditional paradigm of flat braid, round braid and twisted.
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Reply #4 - Mar 13th, 2021 at 3:11pm
 
Very interesting J. So keeping in the theme of an instrument where does this fall? Woodwind? Brass? Strings etc.
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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 6:00am
 
I made another one out of jute, but it is not as stiff as hemp. The hemp one (outer) is nicer.
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 6:07am
 
A photo to show how stiff/pliable the whipping allows me to get a thin natural sling. The pouch orientation control is most excellent, of a quality I have never had with other slings, neither thought possible, and it doesn't require a thick/square braid that slows it down or interferes. And I tried so many. It's hard to put into words the magic. It almost made me cry. The symphony this hemp sling produces is like spring waltz.
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 6:50am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Mar 14th, 2021 at 6:07am:
A photo to show how stiff/pliable the whipping allows me to get a thin natural sling. The pouch orientation control is most excellent, of a quality I have never had with other slings, neither thought possible, and it doesn't require a thick/square braid that slows it down or interferes. And I tried so many. It's hard to put into words the magic. It almost made me cry. The symphony this hemp sling produces is like spring waltz.


A tutorial would be most helpful especially for newer members if you are up to it. Perhaps adding it to the abstract sling design?
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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 9:59am
 
I've found that round braiding around a core makes a quite stiff sling too, might be another way to achieve a similar result.
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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 11:06am
 
Very interesting! What did you do for the release?
I can see that design working really well, and round split-pouches in general have very low friction. While my 'magic' sling turns out to not be that magical, yours looks promising.
Prime candidate for waxing I think, which would help glue the thing together, make the twist resistance even better, and greatly decrease the likelihood of the whipping getting torn in any location and unraveling. Because it's so thin it would probably only add ~10g in weight.
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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 11:57am
 
JudoP wrote on Mar 14th, 2021 at 9:59am:
I've found that round braiding around a core makes a quite stiff sling too, might be another way to achieve a similar result.


it produces a very similar result. The slings I get closest to performance to this one are relatively stiff, machine round braided  polyester around a core, these are 5-6mm diameter cords. I simply stitch these together to form a split pouch, and then add some leather to cover up the stitchings
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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 12:06pm
 
Archaic Arms wrote on Mar 14th, 2021 at 11:06am:
Very interesting! What did you do for the release?
I can see that design working really well, and round split-pouches in general have very low friction. While my 'magic' sling turns out to not be that magical, yours looks promising.
Prime candidate for waxing I think, which would help glue the thing together, make the twist resistance even better, and greatly decrease the likelihood of the whipping getting torn in any location and unraveling. Because it's so thin it would probably only add ~10g in weight.



The grip I used on this sling is very wide, I place the retention loop over my pinkie and ring, so the cord basically exits from my ring finger. I use a middle, thumb and index grip on the release ''tab''. So all my fingers are used, 2 for the retention, 3 for the release. I don't really like the feeling of full-cord grip with a ring-finger wide grip. But I do love a ring finger wide grip whenever I can.

The split pouch is specifically sized for specific ammo- in this case tennisballs, baseballs, clay balls and biconicals. Because it's sized properly I have no rpoblems with a rotor and ammo dropping out of the pouch, even with a wide ring finger grip. I wouldn't use this sling for random stones of various shapes and sizes, the sling deserves better.
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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 12:11pm
 
That looks really stiff J. Have you tried it with heavy ammo? And have you tried the lasso aiming method?
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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 2:56pm
 
You're really onto something here J.
I have just made a small section with thick linen yarns and it's amazingly twist resistant if you wrap it correctly. 3-ply in the middle would be too thick with the yarns I'm using and 2 will probably be just as good. I can't do any normal braiding at the moment as I have a gargantuan blister on my left thumb, but I can twist cords, so I'll try and whip one together today.  Wink
I think it would make for a great target sling.
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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2021 at 3:16pm
 
I wrap 5 turns, then pull it down tight, repeat, you get better at it
the next sling. With care and skillful wrapping, it should not slide, Make it tight. And I do recommend
Thin Linen or hemp,. And not thick jute or sisal twine.
Its similar to a bowstring serving
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