I take all life seriously, from insects to plants to fungi to birds to mammals to fish. They all deserve respect, but like most organisms on the planet our individual survival depends on the death of other species. A vegan living in the city is no more ethical than a hunter living in the woods in my opinion. We all approach the scenario differently.

Hunting can be viewed in many ways.

Personally I enjoy the whole experience.
I forage wild plants and fungi and also hunt and fish.
I don’t pointlessly try to harm anything, plants animals or fungi but a part of life is you will disrupt and destroy other living things just by living yourself.

Amongst the viewpoints that vary around this subject I think it’s good to remember that the “ethics” surrounding the topic are an ideal and not a closed fact.

We all live in different places and have different experience.

We could argue to the end of time with good points on either end of the spectrum but it’s never going to solve the issue.

Hunt if you like
Don’t if you don’t.
Try to respect others

Hunting is varied, yes there is consumption of animal products for food and other resources but also pest management and asset protection.

I’ll personally raise an issue close to my heart and will weather the storm of distaste.

In Australia Feral domestic cats kill thousands and thousands of native species, they have already made some species extinct.

There’s no nice way about it you either say let nature take its course from our mistake and let the ecosystem sort itself out over time with drastic implications to many indigenous species or you start killing as many feral cats as you can to try to reduce the loss of natural ecosystems. So this is a real problem if you don’t want anything to die. Because on both sides something is gonna die.

Do I need to watch endless videos of cats being killed , no but cats need to be killed . With nothing keeping the cats in check it’s a disaster that’s continued to get worse. So in the city cats wil and the native animals lose , but in the country many people are for the culling of feral species.

Hunting is killing but sometimes killing is saving a life that’s more at risk .

It’s a hard topic to be objective about

Oxnate wrote on Mar 7^th, 2021 at 9:30pm:

+1 to this.

One thing I don't like seeing is slinging "demonstration" videos from people who don't sling.  More specifically when they have a rock in the pouch, spinning around at high speed, and have it come out early in an unknown direction only to then laugh about it.  I understand trying to keep a video light-hearted, but that is dangerous.


On the topic, I have no issues with hunting.  I don't hunt personally, but if I could regularly get meat from a hunter, I wouldn't buy it at the store.  I don't really understand the need for a video that actually includes the killing of an animal.  I'm not sure what would be lost in demonstrating hunting skills in a video which didn't actually complete the deed.  That said, if someone wanted to make a video of this, I'm certainly not going to tell them they shouldn't.  Assuming everything is being done safely, and with respect to all aspects of the activity.

Do people want to see how the chicken they are eating died? probably not
then I dont see the use for a hunting video other than for entertainment.
I dont think hunting with a sling is ethically more cruel than buying meat from the market. But making a video out of it changes the angle.

xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2021 at 5:43am:


I think something was not communicated right here. I am not afraid that someone disturbed is going to use the sling in a bad way after watching a hunting video. After all, all bad people are in prison right? it is nobody's job to prevent violence before happening not even the police. talking about potential dangerous people is fear mongering.

Now on what I really said above.
someone who watches such a video is either a hunter or not a hunter.
for a hunter it has very little educational value because he has already experience on hunting, sling hunting is probably banned in most places, so he is probably going to watch for entertainment purposes, for these reasons it is useless for him.

now for someone who is not a hunter and he is not interested for the death of the animals he is eating I think it is hypocritical for him to say he wants it for education, he clearly wants to entertain himself with the thought of what he could possibly do. if he wants to hunt with a sling then he should learn from any hunter how to hunt and then adapt to the sling. a chicken is just a moving target I dont see the need for showing it on video. a boar is dangerous and should be hunted with a team. privileged people can hunt boar, most slingers are not so priviledged, such a video will end up being used for entertainment not for education.

bow hunting videos are uploaded to youtube every week. I am definitely open to watching sling hunting videos. But the reason there aren't any with a sling isn't because it's graphic, it's because there are better tools, and its harder to succeed with a sling, and capture it on film. The question shouldn't be, do we want a sling hunting video, the question should be, can we ?

Jaegoor wrote on Mar 8^th, 2021 at 6:31am:


I think Jaegoor’s right. Hunting-level accuracy videos have to be faked by taking hundreds of shots and only showing the lucky hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0263QMyMdU