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Reply #30 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 1:39am
 
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Reply #31 - May 1st, 2021 at 4:44am
 
Updated a few sections, particularly with regards to etymology and terminology.

One major issue with attempting to provide exact meanings for slinging terms and definitions is that the Hawaiian language can be poetic in nature, with words and terms often having what we refer to as kaona (deeper, hidden meaning). Because of this, I dedicated a lot of time dissecting each slinging term/word I came across to reveal the possible kaona that might not have been mentioned in the listed definition.
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Reply #32 - Apr 20th, 2025 at 1:20am
 
Been a while friends. Apologies for the lack of updates; often get immersed in learning and forget to take/share notes on my findings. Iʻve added some minor updates in some sections of the Maʻa thread for you guys to enjoy. Hopefully going forwards, I can sort through all my notes and provide better sources for you to reference.

Next follow-up will be an expansion on the term maʻālaiʻoa/maʻaalaiʻoā, for which I believe my hypothesis was correct. Iʻm currently learning more about traditional battle formations and tactics to support this, so stay tuned as I nail it down and figure out how to draw for diagrams LOL.
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Reply #33 - Apr 21st, 2025 at 3:10am
 
Archaic Arms wrote on Mar 7th, 2021 at 1:44pm:


Forgot to mention, AA.

A colleague of mine needed to obtain ʻolonā for a documentary they filmed last year on traditional Hawaiian Ulua fishing.

If you go through the same source, ʻolonā fibers can be yours for the cheap price of $3000/oz  Grin

In all seriousness, hearing this from my colleague was quite sad. ʻOlonā cultivation and production was commonplace throughout much of our history prior to the mid and later 1800s. Now it is essentially impossible to obtain; even for most Hawaiians that arenʻt Hawaiian culture artesans or practitioners that can find/obtain ʻolonā plants to make the fiber themselves or afford the ridiculous prices.
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Re: Ma'a Pōhaku (Hawaiian Sling)
Reply #34 - Apr 21st, 2025 at 7:59am
 
Hi Q,
A quick search for olona brings up many results such as,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchardia_latifolia.
Its a nettle and if you want it, it grows like a weed !

Good luck.
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Reply #35 - Apr 21st, 2025 at 8:31am
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Apr 21st, 2025 at 7:59am:
Hi Q,
A quick search for olona brings up many results such as,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchardia_latifolia.
Its a nettle and if you want it, it grows like a weed !

Good luck.
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Although 'olonā is related to nettle, it's significantly harder to grow in both it's natural range or traditional plantations as they require very specific conditions that are difficult to replicate in modern times.

I encouraged a botanist colleague to attempt to propagate it as he frequently propagates, cultivates and distributes many of our native species to the community. He expressed interest but said it might be too difficult due to the specialized equipment needed, as well as the fact that most individuals would not be able to cultivate them properly without artificially creating a suitable climate.
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Reply #36 - Apr 22nd, 2025 at 3:55am
 
Olonā is easily cultivated (83% germination rate),[7] and sprouts readily from cuttings, but does not transplant well due to its fragile roots.[8]

Sounds like time to go for a walk and give it a go !

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Reply #37 - Apr 23rd, 2025 at 6:04am
 
xud9a - call me zud 👍 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2025 at 3:55am:
Olonā is easily cultivated (83% germination rate),[7] and sprouts readily from cuttings, but does not transplant well due to its fragile roots.[8]

Sounds like time to go for a walk and give it a go !

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Iʻve spoken to individuals who have significantly more experience with our native plants than I; my botanist colleague and another trained botanist who operates a nursery business specifically for native plants. In both cases, neither observed or was successful in cultivating them outside of their native range , so it would be essentially impossible for me to do so without creating the specialized structure that would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to fabricate and maintain where Iʻm located.

There is a community in my town that has 60 acres of forested land higher up in the mountains with lots of moisture. If I can convince my colleague to take up the propagation aspect, I could possibly convince them to start planting out ʻolonā. Given the current price point from the one source I mentioned, it could be a significant source of revenue for the members of the community while also increasing availability for artisans and cultural practitioners at hopefully a significantly less price point.

The major problem is that very few people still utilize understory plantation cultivation techniques used by Hawaiians of old, so it would be a learning curb for everyone involved.
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Reply #38 - Apr 26th, 2025 at 8:16am
 
May have finally cracked the code on the substance seen on the sling found in the British Museum (Oc,HAW.175). See update for more info.
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Reply #39 - May 17th, 2025 at 7:37am
 
Iʻve decided to extract specific references from journals and scholarly works and post them separately.

Notes from missionary William Ellis in his 1823 tour of Hawaiʻi



"Their weapons consisted of the pololū, a spear made of hard wood, from sixteen to twenty feet long, and pointed at one end. The ʻihe , or javelin, about six feet in length, made of a species of hard red wood, resembling mahogany, called kauila, pointed and barbed. The laʻau palau, a weapon eight or nine feet long, between a club and spear, somewhat resembling a halbert, with which they were accustomed to thrust or strike, and the pahoa, or dagger, eighteen inches or two feet in length, made of the hard wood, sometimes pointed at both ends, and having a string attached to the handle, which passed round the wrist to prevent their losing it in action. Besides these, they employed the sling, and their stones were very destructive. The slings were made of human hair, plaited, or the elastic fibres of the cocoa-nut husk ; the stones they employed were about the size of a hen’s egg, generally ponderous pieces of compact lava, from the bed of a stream or the sea-beach, where they had been worn smooth by the action of the water."

"Their camp was near an open space, and they generally selected the most broken and uneven ground, frequently rugged tracts of lava, as their fields of battle. Sometimes they encamped on the banks of a river, or deep ravine, which lying between them and their enemies, secured them from sudden attack. But they do not appear to have thrown up lines or other artificial barriers around their camp ; they did not, however, neglect to station piquets at all the passes by which they were likely to be approached. Each party usually had a pali or pā kaua, natural or artificial fortress, where they left their wives and children, and to which they fled if vanquished in the field. These fortresses were either eminences of difficult ascent, and, by walling up the avenues leading to them, sometimes rendered inaccessible; or they were extensive enclosures, including a cave, or spring, or other natural means of sustenance or security. The stone walls around the forts were composed of large blocks of lava, laid up solid, but without cement, sometimes eighteen feet high, and nearly twenty feet thick. On the tops of these walls the warriors fought with slings and stones, or with spears and clubs repelled their assailants. When their pali was an eminence, after they had closed the avenues, they collected large stones and fragments of rock on the edges of the precipices overhanging the paths leading to the fortification, which they rolled down on the heads of their enemies."

(Note: Pali, lit. "cliff, precipice, side of a steep revine, a steep hill"; Pā kaua, lit. "war fence/enclosure". Pali  likely refers to a naturally occurring structures, such as cliff faces or steep hills, but may also refer to man-made structures with steep sides, such as outposts)

"Sometimes they engaged in fleets amounting to upwards of one hundred canoes on each side. At a distance they fought with slings and stones, and other missiles, and, at close quarters, with club and spear. Their fleets were not lashed together like those of the Society islanders. The Sandwich Islands not being surrounded with coral reefs, there is but little smooth water; and the roughness of the sea, most likely, induced them generally to select terra firma for their theatre of war."

“We had not travelled far before we reached Ninole, a small village on the sea-shore, celebrated on account of a short pebbly beach called Kōloa, the stones of which were reported to possess very singular properties, amongst others, that of propagating their species. The natives told us it was a wahi pana (place famous) for supplying the stones employed in making small adzes and hatchets, before they were acquainted with the use of iron ; but particularly for furnishing the stones of which the gods were made, who presided over most of the games of Hawaii. Some powers of discrimination, they told us, were necessary to discover the stones which would answer to be deified. When selected, they were taken to the heiau, and there several ceremonies were performed over them. Afterwards, when dressed, and taken to the place where the games were practised, if the parties to whom they belonged were successful, their fame was established; but, if unsuccessful for several times together, they were either broken to pieces, or thrown contemptuously away. When any were removed for the purpose of being transformed into gods, one of each sex was generally selected, and were always wrapped very carefully together in a piece of native cloth. After a certain time, they said a small stone would be found with them, which, when grown to the size of its parents, was taken to the heiau or temple, and afterwards made to preside at the games.

We were really surprised at the tenacity with which this last opinion was adhered to, not only by the poor people of the place, but by several others, with whom we have since conversed, and whom we should have supposed better informed. It required all the argument and ridicule that we could employ, to make them believe it could not possibly be so. Kōloa was also a place of importance in times of war, as the best stones used in their slings were procured here.

(Note: Based on the locations of Ellisʻ tour, Nīnole likely references an ahupuaʻa (land division) in the moku (district) of Kaʻū, located in the southern region of Moku o Keawe, which
we now refer to as Hawaiʻi island or the Big Island, rather than the Nīnole occurring along the Hāmākua Coast in the northern region of Moku o Keawe)
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Reply #40 - May 20th, 2025 at 9:35pm
 
Exerts from ʻRuling Chiefs of Hawaiʻi, Written by Hawaiian Scholar and Historian, Samuel Kamakau




From the Story of ʻUmi a Liloa - First Aliʻi Nui (Supreme Chief) of Moku o Keawe and the First to Unify All Districts Under a Single Ruler


"...ʻUmi and his companions became large men when they grew up. When ʻUmi and his adopted sons had grown up, they were skilled in working, in spear fighting, in sham battles, in racing, and in other arts practiced at the court of the chief. There was none in the court of Liloa to equal ʻUmi and his sons. ʻUmi humbled himself before his father, serving faithfully before him. Liloa chose some instructors in spear fighting to train ʻUmi and his adopted sons, to give them skill in warfare.
ʻUmi and his companions were adept in sham battles and in slinging stones, but the best of them all was Piʻi-mai-waʻa.
; He was also a swift runner. ʻUmi excelled in surfing with a canoe or a surfboard. When Hakau's boys took part in sham battles with ʻUmi's adopted sons, the latter always won the lehua [the first victim in war—i.e. were victorious] and caused the others to flee."

"....Hoʻolae was a strong man, and when those of Hawaii fought against him he proved to be a greater warrior than they. [Some of] the Hawaii canoes hardly reached the spring of Punahoa when Hoʻolae killed the men [who manned them]. The canoes were forced to land at Waika-ʻahiki, and Hoʻolae fought them until they were compelled to flee.
Some of the canoes landed below Kihahale at Ka-huʻa-kole's place. The men walked above there to battle with Hoʻolae-makua. They met him on the sands of Waikoloa, in front of Kawaipapa where they fought with slings. Stones were slung at the canoes. Hoʻolae kept close to a rock that is now called the Hoʻolae Rock. It was so named because he kept close to it in battle and was victorious over the warriors of Hawaii.
The canoes fled to the open sea, and because of the darkness of the night, they lay stretched out from Olau to Kaiaʻakauli."

"...The next morning the Hawaii war canoes pressed shoreward from Nalualele to Kaihalulu to Lehuaʻula.
Hoʻolae-makua fought with those who slung the solid ʻala' stones of Kawaipapa, the skilled throwers of smooth pebbles of Waika-ʻahiki, the expert stone-tossers of Waikiu and Honokalani, and the quick stone-slinging lads of Kaʻeleku. These men used their skill with stones, and the Hawaii warriors were sent helter-skelter.
Some of the canoes were broken and some were seized by Hoʻolae-makua."

"... One night the Hawaii warriors sought a way of ascending, for it was only at night that they could draw near the fortress.
It was impossible to come near the hill by day, for then the expert sling-shooters [who] did not miss a blade of grass or a hair, sent the stones flying as fast as lightning. That was why the Hawaii warriors lurked in ambush and sought means of getting at their enemies at night.
Piʻi-mai-waʻa gathered his weapons together one night and went up to the bottom of the ladder and up to where the wooden image stood. Piʻi-mai-waʻa twirled his war club and struck the image on the left; twirled it again and struck it on the right. He sent a spear directly toward it, and it moved not at all, but kept standing in one place. Piʻi-mai-waʻa smote with his club, called Ka-huʻe-lepo, and the two wooden objects [image and club] made a thudding sound. He said to himself, "The fortress shall be destroyed."


From the Story of Kalaniʻōpuʻu - Aliʻi Nui of Moku o Keawe, Uncle to Kamehameha the Great


"In the year 1776 Ka-lani-ʻopuʻu and the chiefs returned to war on Maui, and in the battle with Ka-hekili's forces at Wailuku were completely overthrown. The army landed at Keoneʻoʻio, their double canoes extending to Makena at Honuaʻula. There they ravaged the countryside, and many of the people of Honuaʻula fled to the bush.
When Ka-hekili heard of the fighting at Honuaʻula he got his forces together—chiefs, fighting men, and left-handed warriors whose slingshots missed not a hair of the head or a blade of grass.
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"...Ke-ku-hau-piʻo was the most famous of the warriors of Hawaii that day. He had fought his way through and was supposed to be safe with the fleet when he was but facing the onset.
A certain famous soldier of Ka-hekili named Ouli was so skilled with the sling that he could send a shot like a ball from a gun with the swiftness of lightning and a roar like thunder. Ke-ku-hau-piʻo taunted him, saying, "Where the ʻala' stone of Ouli strikes below the soles of Ke-ku-hau-piʻo's feet, there it bursts into flame to warm them. Of Ouli's second shot he made an offering to Ku-kaʻili-moku. At the third shot he jeered, "Say, Ouli, let me have that stone!" Ouli sent his shots like lightning, reverberating like the sound of thunder in Kona or the roar of an earthquake, shriveling the ʻilima. A distance of two miles the shots traveled.
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(Note: There are some variances between historians on this story, in both details and the spelling the name of ʻOulu. ʻOuli is the name likely given in the dialect of Moku o Keawe, while ʻOulu is the name in the Maui dialect; both are the same person.)

"... Ka-lani-ʻopuʻu decided to go on to Koʻolau, Maui, where food was abundant. He went to Kaʻanapali and fed his soldiers upon the taro of Honokahua.
As he was sailing, just off Kahakuloa, a certain man was sitting on the crest of Puʻukoaʻe, and as the war canoes came in sight the man made a gesture of contempt. The distance from the water's edge was some two hundred feet, but Ka-lani-ʻopuʻu prayed to his god saying, "O Ku-kaʻili-moku, give me the life of that scoffer there!" and, putting stone to sling, he struck him on the back at the first shot, thus causing him to take a misstep and fall off the cliff to instant death.
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...Ka-lani-ʻopuʻu turned to go back. Captain Cook tried to grasp him by the hand, but Ka-lani-mano-o-ka-hoʻowaha stuck his club in the way, and Ka-lani-ʻopuʻu was borne away by his chiefs and warriors to Maunaloia, and the fight began. Captain Cook struck Ka-lani-mano-o-ka-hoʻowaha with his sword, slashing one side of his face from temple to cheek. The chief with a powerful blow of his club knocked Captain Cook down against a heap of lava rock. Captain Cook groaned with pain. Then the chief knew that he was a man and not a god, and, that mistake ended, he struck him dead together with four other white men.
The rest of the party fled to their boats and shot the gun, and many of the Hawaiians were killed. Some of those who were skillful with the sling, shot stones after the boat. Of one of these named Moa the strangers said, "Mahi-moa is a bad one. He twists his sling and the stone flies forth. He who flees, dies; he who stands still, lives."
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From the Story of Kamehameha - First Mōʻī (King) and Unifier of All Islands Under the Single Rule of the Hawaiian Kingdom


... Ki-kane, Kamehameha's messenger to Ka-hekili, threw down two maika stones, a black one and a white one. Ka-hekili said when he saw these stones, "This stone (the white) brings life through farming and fishing, rearing men, and providing them with food; this other stone (the black) brings war." Let the reader ponder the meaning of this answer.
Ka-hekili asked, "Is Kamehameha coming to Oahu to fight?" "Yes," answered Ki-kane. (Kahekili asked) "What harbor will he choose?" (Ki-kane replied) "It was Kikoʻo's counsel to make Waimanalo the harbor and battle site. (Kahekili responded) "It is too low there to cast sling stones to reach the heights. It is good only for food and fish. If stones are thrown from above nothing can save the battlefield.
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Note: based on the intel from Kī-Kāne, it is believed that the harbor in Waimānalo which Kamehameha initially intended to land on was Makapuʻu, given its line of travel from his launching point on the island of Molokaʻi. The following is one of the last remaining photos of the natural landscape that would have been present during the time of Kamehamehaʻs conquest. The cliffside has since been cut away to form a highway and an marine life-based tourist attraction (Sea Life Park) and public park built on the flat grounds

Before the highway

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As it looks today

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