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Fingerloop braiding
Jan 29^th, 2021 at 8:13pm

Has anyone ever done any fingerloop braiding? I came across this channel and have watched a couple videos. Not sure yet if it would work for making a sling, but I think the potential is there. It looks like the overall setup will need some adjustments to make a long braid. It's a cool concept though.

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Morphy Slinging.org Moderator Offline Checkmate Posts: 8239	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #1 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 8:48pm Haven't done loop braiding but you can definitely incorporate it into a sling. Where there's a will there's a way right? This is a different technique that I'm incorporating into slings as we speak. Funny you posted this as I just put away my new pattern I'm working on. Here's some pics FWIW.
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joe_meadmaker Slinging.org Administrator Offline Slinging Ice is Cool! Posts: 3389 PA, USA	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #2 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:33pm WOW! That's crazy (in a good way)! Is that a braid?
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IronGoober Interfector Viris Spurii Offline ...and now, No. 1, the larch... Posts: 1740 California Gender:	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #3 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:44pm My eyes hurt... or maybe it's my brain.
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IronGoober Interfector Viris Spurii Offline ...and now, No. 1, the larch... Posts: 1740 California Gender:	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #4 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 9:45pm I just realized that comment could make it seem like I was insulting the visual appeal of your braid. I was not. It looks great. And complex. I hesitate to start complicated braids because as soon as I step away for a break, it takes me so long to figure out what I was doing to get going again...
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Re: Fingerloop braiding
Reply #5 - Jan 29^th, 2021 at 10:17pm

Wow that’s pretty elaborate Morphy! I can see why you said you didn’t have time to make slings when you were in school!

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Re: Fingerloop braiding
Reply #6 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 7:03am

No not a braid. A much more tedious technique. Assuming no screw ups it will likely double your time making a fancy sling. So fancy sling- elaborate braids and some basic weaving techniques for carrying some design into a pouch section might be 35 -40 hours depending on how elaborate you go. Just a normal split pouch with this technique without any cord braiding, finger loop, tab , leatherwork etc?

Well... that top pic with the red and black is too narrow for a split pouch so it went a bit faster but that length is about half an inch. It took me almost two hours to get to that point. Now multiply that by 14 inches for a 7 inch split on each side and you get 48 hours for the pouch alone without any other details like leather work and other things I'm planning. Now that's also assuming you don't screw up which is extremely unlikely because this is so very easy to f$&@ up so add at least 5 hours for fixing and if its a major screw up its completely possible to double that 48 time no I'm not exaggerating. The very thought makes me want to cut myself. Hope I don't do that on NOOCs.

Anyways woke up with some idea on how to make loop braiding work I'll post some designs later in the day if it's not a busy day.

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Reply #7 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 8:43am

Wow! Well let’s see, 48 hours at the new federal minimum wage works out to $720. Throws in a 30% retail markup, and those slings would be a bargain at $1,000 each in a fair market. If that’s how you’re making my SITH, it’s worth the wait even if it does take 2 years to finish

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Archaic Arms Funditor Offline Testing and inventing "Archaic" weapons. Posts: 767	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #8 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 8:55am That is very pretty, I too would love to see a sling pouch like that. Imagine that along with fist-braided cords?
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Re: Fingerloop braiding
Reply #9 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am

Archaic Arms wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 8:55am:

That is very pretty, I too would love to see a sling pouch like that. Imagine that along with fist-braided cords?

I have lol. I like it. NOOCs sling will be the first one ever as far as I know that has this on it. As well as several other design elements that have been working on that I think will be pretty awesome.

NOOC- Just found out this paramedic is being sent to fire school but damnit I'm getting you that sling for you in a few months if it kills me.

@-Joe Meadmaker- Don't mean to derail this Joe. But I posted the pics because I think maybe you can do flat braids with loop braiding. This is another way to do flat sections but probably no where near as fast and efficient as loop braiding would be.

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Reply #10 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 9:54am

Fire school? That’s awesome Morphy!

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Reply #11 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 10:30am

@Morphy - You're totally fine man. What's a good topic without a bit of derailment anyway, huh? Wink

The images you posted remind me of cross stitching.

I still need to watch some more tutorials on loop braiding, but I think the biggest restriction is the method used to tighten the braid. Which in the videos I have watched will limit the length of the (unbraided) cord to the length of your arm. But I don't see why you couldn't have a working section tied off. And then just move that down the cords as the braid gets longer. The only issue I see with this is all the extra cordage, which is rolled up or whatever, will need to be passed through the loops. That is definitely doable, but will be a huge pain and greatly slow down the process. An suppose an alternative would be to splice in additional cord somehow as the end of the loops is reached.

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Reply #12 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 10:47am

It looks like one of the limits on length is how you spread fingers to tighten it, but you could probably use some sort of rake tool that simulates spreading fingers closer to the braid without having to let go of the loops... maybe. Interesting challenge Joe! Can’t wait to see how this plays out.

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Kick past-moderator Offline Posts: 4465 Finland	Re: Fingerloop braiding Reply #13 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 11:40am Morphy wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am: Don't mean to derail this Joe. This forum has a long and proud tradition of topic derailment.
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Re: Fingerloop braiding
Reply #14 - Jan 30^th, 2021 at 11:53am

Kick wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 11:40am:

Morphy wrote on Jan 30^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

Don't mean to derail this Joe.

This forum has a long and proud tradition of topic derailment.

I agree. Most of the best threads have been derailed. It’s more like a real, living conversation that way. That being said-

@Joe- you said you don’t know what to do with the extra cordage? They would have to be put through the loops? I’m slow. Can you explain for me?

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