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This crap right here...
Dec 19th, 2020 at 3:46pm
 
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/man-dies-mid-flight-reportedly-013959551.html

I'm so sick of the misinformation on Covid. Somehow this guy went from having covid related symptoms
To dying on a flight OF COVID.

And the media puts these tweets front and center. That and the headline itself are often the only things people see. To be quite honest I didn't even finish reading the article myself as it seemed too ridiculous. So now there are millions of people that see that and go away certain this man died of respiratory Ebola.

He probably had a heart attack or threw a clot.  You don't walk onto a plane with minor upper respiratory symptoms and then call it a Covid death if that person dies. It's incredibly irresponsible. I'm sorry but our media is absolute garbage.

Even if he had Covid the chances of him going from walking and talking to dead of just a minor upper respiratory illness  (which is what he was experiencing at the time) without some secondary cause is extremely unlikely. As in I would bet my next years salary on it.

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These articles do far more damage than they help IMO.
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Reply #1 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 4:18pm
 
The real problem is that people care more about feelings than truth... to the point of even denying the existence of truth. If facts don’t matter, you are easily manipulated by garbage like this.
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Reply #2 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 4:42pm
 
I think the problem is the media reporting on things like this, just some joe-shmoe's tweet, and saying that is news, rather than relying on a journalist to go out, do weeks of research and build a story, and report on that. But of course the latter requires much more time/effort and won't get as many views as quickly. Journalism needs to be left to the journalists, etc.
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Reply #3 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 9:57pm
 
Journalists don’t actually go out anymore. If it’s not on Twitter, it never happened!
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2020 at 6:45am
 
That's what a lot of the "outrage" news stories actually are. Maybe a max of 5 people will grumble about something on Twitter and suddenly it's a "huge uproar" or "outrage" at [insert story here] and the article will be very coy about the fact that next to no one is actually saying anything. Anger generates clicks.
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Reply #5 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:48pm
 
   The news media doesn't really care about anything but sensationalism. That's what sells.
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Reply #6 - Dec 29th, 2020 at 4:25pm
 
So here's some "this crap" that hits a bit closer to home for me, and this is the real-world consequences of the crap the media is pulling. 

We have a friend who had a non-covid health issue that kept her bed-ridden through Christmas, and just as she's coming off of that, she got a positive covid test result today.  She is single and lives with roommates.  As soon as the roommates heard that she had covid, they told her she needs to get out of the house and go live somewhere else... *anywhere else* for two weeks.  Talk about kicking someone when they're down!  There is so much fear that they are ignoring the fact that they are probably already exposed enough to get covid anyway, and they are torpedoing a relationship because of selfish and irrational fear.  Seriously.  How can you tell someone who feels like they're dying to go rest in the car until they can find a place to live for two weeks?!  With or without covid... I think it's time to find some new roommates.
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Reply #7 - Dec 29th, 2020 at 5:18pm
 
The fear is palpable in some people. My brother is one of them. I understand being careful but don’t strain relationships over something you have very little experience with or something you’ve only heard the most extreme fear porn from the media. Be careful, but be balanced is I guess the point I’m making.

I’ve literally been face to face with people that are super hot with covid, in the process of dying from it. I’ve intubated such patients which means you are basically opening up their airway and looking straight down into their lungs as you put a tube into them. All the while they are breathing on you, coughing and sometimes gagging on you.  Cheesy Cheesy I’ve not had Covid yet, although after that last call last shift I wouldn’t be surprised if I get it.

If you have a good immune system with no major comorbidities odds are very, very good that you won’t have much of an issue. These are just the facts based on the numbers we have now. Yet if you believe everything the media says I should’ve been dead a dozen times by now.  Now that I’ve jinxed myself, it’s been nice knowing you all.   Wink

I’m going to put a big caveat on the above statement. I personally believe we are in for a worse wave of covid. Not trying to spread fear, and I truly hope I’m wrong. That being said though, reality may become fear porn if things go sideways hard. So again, be careful but balanced.

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Reply #8 - Dec 29th, 2020 at 9:30pm
 
NooneOfConsequence wrote on Dec 29th, 2020 at 4:25pm:
So here's some "this crap" that hits a bit closer to home for me, and this is the real-world consequences of the crap the media is pulling. 

We have a friend who had a non-covid health issue that kept her bed-ridden through Christmas, and just as she's coming off of that, she got a positive covid test result today.  She is single and lives with roommates.  As soon as the roommates heard that she had covid, they told her she needs to get out of the house and go live somewhere else... *anywhere else* for two weeks.  Talk about kicking someone when they're down!  There is so much fear that they are ignoring the fact that they are probably already exposed enough to get covid anyway, and they are torpedoing a relationship because of selfish and irrational fear.  Seriously.  How can you tell someone who feels like they're dying to go rest in the car until they can find a place to live for two weeks?!  With or without covid... I think it's time to find some new roommates.


   It seems to me it would be easier for the healthy roommates to live somewhere else to live for two weeks.  I would definitely find some new roommates.
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Reply #9 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 12:17am
 
It’s total BS. They pestered her until she went to the ER... in an ambulance. The roommates, like my friend, are young, healthy, and have all already been exposed to covid. Now, out of fear, my friend is being sent out to expose other random people in the general public to covid and take up medical resources at a hospital when she should be at home resting. This is just one person. I’m sure similar stories happen hundreds of times every day.  This is what fear mongering in the news does to people, and the cumulative effects are devastating.
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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES!  Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“  -Jesus the Noodler
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 5:42am
 
Hmm seems like that should be illegal NOOC. They can't force her out.
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Reply #11 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 6:34am
 
Morphy wrote on Dec 30th, 2020 at 5:42am:
Hmm seems like that should be illegal NOOC. They can't force her out.


That’s true, and that was my initial reaction too. They can’t legally force her out, but they can pester her to leave and prevent her from getting rest when she needs it the most.  That’s the route they chose, and under those circumstances the best thing to do is leave rather than face both covid and a hostile home environment. She’s going to ride it out with a family from church who also has covid.  It’s annoying that the roommates “won”, but they are paying a heavier price long-term by torpedoing the relationship and losing respect from 3rd party folks like me and my wife. They simply don’t know the cost of victory yet, because they are singularly focused on the one short-term goal of getting her out of the house.

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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES!  Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“  -Jesus the Noodler
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 8:32am
 
True. Jokes on them if she has positive test results she's probably already had it 3-5 days and she's possibly already very contagious so let's hope Daddy Karma comes in and whoops some ass.
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Reply #13 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 9:02am
 
Even if they’re jerks, and even if it would be poetic justice, I won’t wish covid-19 on them or anybody else. I just hope they grow up and learn the value of actually caring for somebody other than themselves some day before a bigger crisis happens.  Eventually they may wake up to the fact that they have driven away true friends and only maintained shallow and convenient relationships. Those kind of relationships vanish at the first sign of trouble... just like they did to my friend. That’s a fate worse than covid when you eventually need real help.
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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES!  Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“  -Jesus the Noodler
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2020 at 9:45am
 
Noble sentiment. I do agree for the most part although I will say all the most important lessons in my life were bought with great pain lol. I wouldn't want them to be seriously hurt but sometimes going through similar things brings empathy for something that would otherwise be impossible.
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