Greetings friends and associates,

I wanted to kick off Sunday in a positive way with a few questions for anyone who might feel like sharing their thoughts and feelings with the group. Please be kind everyone, this is, as you know, a judgement free zone.

To start with,  I was wondering was the Capitol event an actual attempted coup and if so who do you think is behind it? Is there one party in the United States mostly responsible for our troubles? And no obvious answers like the Green Party. If you aren't in America which group is responsible for all your problems? For the sake of brevity we can all assume white people are at the top of that list. So just go ahead and say whatever your second choice is.

Also do you have an opinion on who's religion is right, if any, and why are all the others wrong? And this is for posterity's sake so please be as detailed as possible in your criticisms.

Finally I was wondering how you all feel about the occupation of Palestine.

Anyways, you all have a wonderful day, I greatly look forward to your thoughts on these topics. Namaste

Morphy wrote on Jan 10^th, 2021 at 7:07am:

Always lobbing those softball questions Morphy...

From a historical perspective I’m seeing a lot of similarities to where the terms “left” and “right” originated: The French Revolution.  Not exactitudes, mind you, but a lot of similarities:

Economic hardship exacerbated by  burdensome regulations and biological disaster (mass ergot rot and food shortages that affected the lower classes  more than the rich.
Riots
Anti-police sentiments
People parading through the palace (or Capitol) in demonstrations of defiance against a  politically weakening king.
Street thugs used to influence political debate while politicians maintained thin but halfway plausible deniability (sans-culotte and muscadin both have fairly obvious parallels)

What hasn’t happened... at least not yet:
Radicals from the sans-culotte took over politics, then purged political opponents... then after running out of enemies on the other side... purging the less radical rivals from the same side to consolidate power (this is also a key element of most Communist revolutions)
Mass confiscation of wealth and land from “the rich”.
War with an external enemy (far more likely than civil war in our case today).
The army was politicized and competent leaders and strategists were replaced by loyalist political hacks... leading to a lot of unnecessary deaths on the battlefield.

There’s a lot more, but that’s a good place to stop. If we continue down the path we appear to be on, it’s looking like it’ll be a bumpy ride.  So to answer your question Morphy: Who is the source of our problems? We are. Human nature hasn’t changed, even if the details of the story are different each time. 

Sometimes I just imagine if Trump had won the election, that Biden had directed members of Antifa and BLM to go and disrupt the confirmation of the electoral votes, that those members would have pushed their way in and stolen government materials, if they had killed a police officer...

I wonder...

Changing the constitution would be terrible! I mean to AMEND the constitution!? How could they!?

Almost the entirety of the coronavirus conversation was me and J. I'm not just responding to you.

So these were some potentially inflammatory questions. I do realize that. I really enjoy reading all the different sides. I've been staying away from the news more lately because I feel like it's so obviously propaganda at this point. I won't waste my time listening to brain washing. I would much rather hear what you guys think. I may be stirring up conversation but I certainly don't want to cause a rift between people. It's a fine line.

This whole coup thing we don't really know what happened. None of us were there. If VetRyan is suspicious of our politicians and media I can't say I blame him. The last 4 years have been a master class in bullshit from the media.

For those of you who don't have access to American news channels all I can say is lucky you. My favorite of all time is still the CNN reporter standing in front of a riot with burning buildings all around and claiming it's a "mostly peaceful protest". LOL the f$&@ you say? If that's peaceful I don't want to see angry. But that is the doublespeak we are dealing with. It's literally "We are going to show you what's  going on and tell you the exact opposite." And you will believe it. It's just surreal. Orwell was dead on.

There is so much I could say about the whole coup thing but I’m 40 not 20 so I will pretend to be circumspect and hold my peace. Nothing good would come of that tangent anyways lol....