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Reply #30 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 4:47pm
 
That's the sort of size I'm wanting to go for.
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Reply #31 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:45pm
 
I have two long bows in the making. When I am finished, I am def going to make a three foot hazel bow.
Thanks for the inspiration and links!
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Reply #32 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 1:25pm
 
They're about the easiest bows to make, the hard part is waiting the sapling staves to cure so you can start working on them. I tillered mine down a little more, its better now.

I like these primitive light drawweight bows. Primitive stone age cultures seem to agree. Less draw weight means easier aiming, easier construction, and the string will last longer. I read native American bows rarely exceeded 45 lbs and African bows were even weaker .The trick is in the point, you want the flint point to be as sharp as possible. They took down deer and antilope with these tiny stone points they used. Of course it requires good shot placement.
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Reply #33 - Jan 29th, 2021 at 10:38pm
 
walter wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:45pm:
I have two long bows in the making. When I am finished, I am def going to make a three foot hazel bow.
Thanks for the inspiration and links!


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Reply #34 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 1:59pm
 
Nice little baby snake boy you got coming.
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Reply #35 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 10:06pm
 
Hoping to getit floor tillered this weekend
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Reply #36 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 4:06pm
 
Got the tips worked down and a little of the belly and sides. Looks like I will have to straighten the kink just past the ctr of the stick.
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Reply #37 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 3:31pm
 
Thats gonna be an awesome, beautiful, one of a kind bow
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Reply #38 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 5:38pm
 
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Reply #39 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:14pm
 
Can’t wait to see it
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Reply #40 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 6:37pm
 
Get after it Walter.
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Reply #41 - Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:18am
 
The first video is very nice and its easiness also inspired me to make a short bow.
Just yesterday I went into the woods, cut down a tree, went home and shaped it with an axe and knife. Then it split around the middle when I tried to string it. So I went into woods again, cut down another tree, went home and shaped it with an axe and knife. This time I shaped the middle of the bow into a thicker than the rest of the bow handle. I strung it, fired some grill spears and left it strung for the night. Next morning I strung a tighter string but when I pulled in it too much it snapped (not around the handle though). This happened just two minutes ago. 
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In the first video he heat treats the bow before stringing it. What difference does this make and is it necessary?

How long can you wait before working on a piece of wood that you have just cut down? Is something like 24 hours acceptable?
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Re: Short Bow
Reply #42 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 8:05am
 
Slyngorm wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:18am:
I strung it, fired some grill spears and left it strung for the night. Next morning I strung a tighter string but when I pulled in it too much it snapped (not around the handle though).


You never, ever, leave a bow strung if you aren't shooting with it, not even the nice, professionally made ones. The wood gets permanently bent and they loose their power really, really quickly, in a matter of hours if you work with living wood bows we all made as kids. Or so I persume.

The breakage was proabbly a combination of factors, maybe the grains weren't straight, plus leaving it strung over night as it dried out - see below for that.

Slyngorm wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:18am:
In the first video he heat treats the bow before stringing it. What difference does this make and is it necessary?


Pretty necessary in this circumstance, not at all otherwise. See below.

Slyngorm wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:18am:
How long can you wait before working on a piece of wood that you have just cut down? Is something like 24 hours acceptable?


Right, so the principal issue here is that the living wood contains a lot of water - you can see that if you try to burn it, you get steam and bubbles on the surface. As the stick gets older and older after you cut it, the water dries out, and this process slightly warps the wood and generally changes how it behaves.

For any sort of permanent construction, bows included, the waiting time is about a year. Yup. You should also cover the ends of the stick with glue or some other stuff that prevents it from drying unevenly.

What you see in that first video, however, is the survivalist bow - you end up out in the woods and need to shoot a deer today, what do you do? Well, you use fire to dry it, which will get you an inferior bow to one you'd get if you waited a year, but you will manage to not starve.

This sort of bow is more prone to warping over time and probably breaking as well, but that's not really a mark against it - it's supposed to be an improvised hunting weapon, quick to make and replace if need be.
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Reply #43 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 9:51am
 
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Reply #44 - Feb 20th, 2021 at 9:55am
 
Slyngorm wrote on Feb 19th, 2021 at 5:18am:
The first video is very nice and its easiness also inspired me to make a short bow.
Just yesterday I went into the woods, cut down a tree, went home and shaped it with an axe and knife. Then it split around the middle when I tried to string it. So I went into woods again, cut down another tree, went home and shaped it with an axe and knife. This time I shaped the middle of the bow into a thicker than the rest of the bow handle. I strung it, fired some grill spears and left it strung for the night. Next morning I strung a tighter string but when I pulled in it too much it snapped (not around the handle though). This happened just two minutes ago. 
My introduction to bow making.                


In the first video he heat treats the bow before stringing it. What difference does this make and is it necessary?

How long can you wait before working on a piece of wood that you have just cut down? Is something like 24 hours acceptable?


If you are interested in this topic I will post some videos about it if you wish?

EDIT: Actually come to think of it Ive been planning on making a simple over view on the process. Im off today and considering ive been awake since 4am yesterday I feel pretty good. Today might just be the day...
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