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Reply #75 - Dec 3rd, 2020 at 8:10pm
 
Morphy wrote on Dec 3rd, 2020 at 5:28pm:
but the good ones are absolutely amazing people.

We don't have any good ones. There is zero accountability here.
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Reply #76 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 12:32pm
 
Netflix has or had rights to an amazing Ukranian series called "Servant of the People". Sits on the shelf next to "yes minister" and "yes prime minister" as some of my favorite political humor.

One of the things that jumped out was the understood level of corruption. For all that I detest the corruption in the US, COMPARATIVELY, it's much better in the US than in a lot of the world. Had a similar moment watching netflix's "better than us" which was done by russians, and again, the acknowledged and overt corruption is a different level. And it's just backdrop, part of setting rather than a focus.

Which is to say I believe you Kilisi. And once the rot gets to that level, I don't know how to get it into reasonable limits. Sure I'd like to get rid of it entirely but I try to stay grounded.
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Reply #77 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 4:20pm
 
a wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:50pm:
Morphy wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:36pm:
Yep pretty much. Not every American is for that by the way. We feel just as powerless to stop that stuff as you probably do.

You're more powerless than us. We always have options (but not always the will) to fight back.

At the end of the day I personally just want to be someone I can be proud of and set a clean example for my kids to follow. The big picture will play out on it's own.


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Reply #78 - Dec 4th, 2020 at 11:17pm
 
perpetualstudent wrote on Dec 4th, 2020 at 12:32pm:
Which is to say I believe you Kilisi. And once the rot gets to that level, I don't know how to get it into reasonable limits. Sure I'd like to get rid of it entirely but I try to stay grounded.

In large parts of the world corruption is funded by the US, other parts it's funded by China or other first World countries. Once that funding collapses the corruption will collapse in a splash of blood, at least for a while. In the Pacific Islands it's mostly NZ and Australia who fund it and have pledged their militaries to put down any uprisings if the peasants don't like it. Every so often a show of force demonstration is made of what will happen in case people forget.

So with elections next year millions in aid money are pouring into the country, everyone knows this money will be stolen and fund bribes and election campaigns. Thats just normal and realistically thats what the money is sent for.
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Reply #79 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:13am
 
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Reply #80 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 10:07am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:13am:


Don't worry J I've been assured nothing like that could ever happen.
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Reply #81 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 12:40pm
 
Oh man... if that dystopian alternate reality is accurate, then I’m really glad I’m not a road sign. It llooks like everyone hates those signs!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcwz8-EfFYE
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Reply #82 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 2:02pm
 
Alternative ? It's the world right now
https://twitter.com/tkerssen/status/1266921821653385225
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Reply #83 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 5:07pm
 
Yeah...
That is missing some context J.  Also, those are paintballs. Look at how real despots treat non-compliance.  That may be obnoxious to the homeowner, but nobody was hurt. I don’t think they would get off that easy in China, Hong Kong, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran...

We don’t know why the National Guard was there, and yes, they were jerks, but that’s no dystopia.
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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES!  Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“  -Jesus the Noodler
 
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Reply #84 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 5:34pm
 
While we are definitely not up there with some countries and not a dystopian society we seem to be headed in that way. But I think that’s the nature of all societies. Regardless if they start out free, they usually end up going into tyranny or destruction.

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Reply #85 - Dec 18th, 2020 at 5:36pm
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Dec 18th, 2020 at 7:13am:


I saw the second one advertised. Anyone else think that is just too soon?
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Reply #86 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 2:02pm
 
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You are a great guy Kick but also slightly scary at times. - Morphy
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Reply #87 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 2:27pm
 
I stopped caring about paintball, rubber bullet and tear gas wounds when they started burning innocent people's businesses to the ground. You hate the rich and politicians there are plenty of politicians and ultra rich for you to voice your complaints against. You come in my house looking to do violence you better be able to dodge bullets.
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Reply #88 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 3:48pm
 
Police with pepper balls are a mercy compared with the escalation you will get from self-organized under-disciplined self-defense forces who are more likely to cause even greater collateral damage.   Compare those pepperball injuries to the two boys who were murdered by CHAZ “security forces” when they accidentally took a wrong turn too fast and came flying towards a barricade. I’ll take the police with non-lethals instead,  thank you very much.
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“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES!  Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“  -Jesus the Noodler
 
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Reply #89 - Dec 28th, 2020 at 12:37am
 
Trump signed it.  22% for Americans, 77% for people who hate us, 1% to give themselves a raise.


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