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Re: Done with politics?
Reply #15 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 7:59pm
 
and what benefit to you or others will that have?

Near as I can tell the radicalization of the American Population is far worse than the actual policies of the current and previous tenants of the white house.
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Re: Done with politics?
Reply #16 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 8:03pm
 
   Taking a stand against racism, corruption, and evil is not a bad thing by any measure.  If I was a citizen of Germany in the 30s I'd certainly oppose Hitler.
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Reply #17 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:00pm
 
Pretty sure this is that part in a thread where there's an awkward silence and then someone posts a bad joke to break the tension. Can you imagine? *shrug*
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Reply #18 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:19pm
 
except your "Hitler" is gone now and you just said you're still "radical" and will be the rest of your life.

I don't see a great injustice, a great cause, I see what you described. Self radicalized people getting us closer to civil war. I'd as soon not see that.
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Re: Done with politics?
Reply #19 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 12:25am
 
As a general rule, the first person to mention Hitler in an argument loses.

What scares me is all the people who think Trump is so bad that they donít care whether the election was stolen or not. Thatís all fine and good until the next guy(or gal) you think is evil uses the same tactics to invalidate your vote and your side loses... then itís an outrage. Apparently nobody cares about Kantian ethics any more. The other guy gets a different set of rules than me, and apparently thatís not a problem.
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Reply #20 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:26am
 
All this proves to me is that two good people can have wildly different viewpoints and remain good people. The deep polarization of today's politics is a problem. Too many people see someone with opposing views as not just different or wrong but evil.

I hope that's not the case here. I think it's accurate to say we have the full spectrum of political thought here on Slinging.Org and none of us have a bad heart.
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Reply #21 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:34am
 
NooneOfConsequence wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 12:25am:
As a general rule, the first person to mention Hitler in an argument loses.



How about Mao?

https://youtu.be/k-rE03PGQfA
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Reply #22 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 10:45am
 
The "leaders" who govern us are convinced of their intelligence.
So the people for them are wrong. Problem : many people don't like this contempt.
In France, we have " les gilets jaunes" (the yellow vests).
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Reply #23 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 11:59am
 
anyone watched the social dilemma?
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Reply #24 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 1:29pm
 
perpetualstudent wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:19pm:
except your "Hitler" is gone now and you just said you're still "radical" and will be the rest of your life.

I don't see a great injustice, a great cause, I see what you described. Self radicalized people getting us closer to civil war. I'd as soon not see that.


    The White Nationalists who put tRump in power didn't just suddenly evaporate.† They've always been here and always will.† Until 20l6 I considered them a harmless minority... a tragic relic from our not so distant past.† The past four years have illustrated how very potent they still are an how dangerous they can be.†
    There is no reconciliation or negotiating with Nazis. If standing up for truth and right brings us closer to civil war then so be it.
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Re: Done with politics?
Reply #25 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 2:53pm
 
I dont think that there are that many neo nazis in this country to where they put Trump in office.  I voted  for him, am i automatically a nazi? I dont think so. What would you call all 'colored' voters, (black, brown, green) i dont think youcould call them nazi.


I unfortunately see this thread getting way to personal. It mightcause some issues here
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Re: Done with politics?
Reply #26 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 3:54pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 8:03pm:
† †Taking a stand against racism, corruption, and evil is not a bad thing by any measure.† If I was a citizen of Germany in the 30s I'd certainly oppose Hitler.†


Sure you would.

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Rat Man wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 1:29pm:
perpetualstudent wrote on Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:19pm:
except your "Hitler" is gone now and you just said you're still "radical" and will be the rest of your life.

I don't see a great injustice, a great cause, I see what you described. Self radicalized people getting us closer to civil war. I'd as soon not see that.


† † The White Nationalists who put tRump in power didn't just suddenly evaporate.† They've always been here and always will.† Until 20l6 I considered them a harmless minority... a tragic relic from our not so distant past.† The past four years have illustrated how very potent they still are an how dangerous they can be.†
† † There is no reconciliation or negotiating with Nazis. If standing up for truth and right brings us closer to civil war then so be it.†



You think the side that gets "triggered" by people calling them names would win against the side that you call every horrible name in the book and can take it without crying to the PC police?† Ha!
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Reply #27 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:33pm
 
From an outside perspective it makes zero difference who is in power in the USA or the rest of the first World, either way it's ongoing bad news for the third World and developing nations. Because whatever they do at home, they will always endorse and finance corrupt regimes and protect them against their own people in the rest of the World...... just saying
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Reply #28 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:36pm
 
a wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
From an outside perspective it makes zero difference who is in power in the USA, either way it's ongoing bad news for the third World and developing nations. Because whatever they do at home, they will always endorse and finance corrupt regimes and protect them against their own people...... just saying


Yep pretty much. Not every American is for that by the way. We feel just as powerless to stop that stuff as you probably do.

The last 4 years have continually reminded me of a quote I like from Nietzsche:

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Take that however you want.
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Reply #29 - Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:50pm
 
Morphy wrote on Nov 30th, 2020 at 4:36pm:
Yep pretty much. Not every American is for that by the way. We feel just as powerless to stop that stuff as you probably do.

You're more powerless than us. We always have options (but not always the will) to fight back.

At the end of the day I personally just want to be someone I can be proud of and set a clean example for my kids to follow. The big picture will play out on it's own.

On the rare occasions corruption sticks itself in my face, I headbutt it. Honestly I'd rather ignore it and I don't go looking for it, but due to my religion I'm obligated to face evil head on without fear and give it a kicking. So after several incidents it usually gives me a wide berth. Wink

Quote "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing" :- Spiderman. Vol 2 Chap 7
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