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TOMBELAINE Funditor Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 743 france Gender:	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #45 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 6:47am Whaouh, a warrior with these sticks must be very impressive.
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a Senior Member Offline a Posts: 325 a Gender:	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #46 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 6:59am TOMBELAINE wrote on Nov 1^st, 2020 at 6:47am: Whaouh, a warrior with these sticks must be very impressive. Yes, I imagine he'd be very intimidating. Polynesian weapons tend to be very scary looking things. I train with them, but I'm no expert.
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Slyngorm Funditor Offline Slingit... Posts: 508	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #47 - Nov 4^th, 2020 at 2:24pm Most of these videos look kinda flashy...
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Kick past-moderator Offline Posts: 4451 Finland	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #48 - Nov 4^th, 2020 at 2:35pm A lot of stick fighting I think is shown to be flashy to get people to sign up to their club or buy their videos When it comes down to it, a stick is a stick. It goes bonk.
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Reply #49 - Nov 5^th, 2020 at 5:25pm

Kick wrote on Nov 4^th, 2020 at 2:35pm:

a stick is a stick. It goes bonk.

Yeah, but the over the top arm movements only helps to open yourself to your opponent and makes you spend twice the time making a strike. In the end it looks silly.

Reminds me of my first time watching Akademia Szermierzy (HEMA, sword fighting). After a lifetime of watching theatre sword fights the real deal looked so weird but was actually really simple and logical and all together was so much more awesome.
In that nerve, I haven't been able to take lightsaber fights from the prequels seriously after "Star Wars: The (Totally) Phantom Menace"

Here are some quarterstaff sparring rounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMjsHE5p2vs&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uja1TNNNko4

As the second videos notes, due to the nature of the quarterstaff the fights focus on showing your opponent’s staff out of the way instead of hitting him/her but it definitely looks more meaningful.

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Kick past-moderator Offline Posts: 4451 Finland	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #50 - Nov 6^th, 2020 at 1:36am The various HEMA practitioners of YouTube have ruined my ability to watch a movie sword fight and find it satisfactory Most forms of fighting are far quicker and direct than shown in media.
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Reply #51 - Nov 8^th, 2020 at 3:39am

Polynesian martial arts were mostly about sticks and stones. There is an account of an argument over effectiveness in WW1 between the Māori Battalion and the English which saw a Maori soldier take the end off a broom and beat the fencing master with it.

Another account much earlier in time of a 60+ year old warchief going down on one knee when confronted by an Officer with a sword, and realising with sadness that the officer was going to attack him solo instead of waiting for help. After killing the officer he was sad that the poor chap had no idea how invulnerable he was in that fighting stance and there's no glory in such an easy kill.

They're very fast, very focused moves with the defense within the moves rather than separate offense and defence. Had to be, they had no effective armour and one hit would probably cripple or kill. So it's not random swinging.

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Reply #52 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 5:57am

Rat Man wrote on Oct 6^th, 2020 at 3:18pm:

There's a Folk Song about shillelaghs and for the life of me I can't remember the name of it. The gist of the song is that a young man and his cousin are walking along minding their own business. It might be Christmas or the cousin's birthday or both. They pass by a recruiting sergeant and a drummer boy. The sergeant starts giving them a hard time about being slackers and it ends up in a fight with the sergeant and drummer boy using rusty old sabers and the young man and his cousin using shillelaghs. The sergeant and drummer boy get the crap beat out of them and that's how the song ends. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBGkhPx529g

cracking tune, its a traditional folk song. Even Bob Dylan has a version of it floating around somewhere

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Morphy Slinging.org Moderator Offline Checkmate Posts: 8102	Re: The most archaic of the archaic.....THE STICK! Reply #53 - Nov 16^th, 2020 at 12:16pm Polynesians are scary dudes. You couldn't pay me enough to stick fight them. However, I will challenge you all to a game of ping pong and do some whooping up though.
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Reply #54 - Dec 7^th, 2020 at 12:52am

Picked up a “premium” cedar 2x4, cut it in half longwise, and I’ve been rounding the pieces by hand with a rasp into quarterstaff-ish poles. I’ll post pics once I get one sanded and stained.

“My final hour is at hand. We face an enemy more numerous and cunning than the world has yet seen. Remember your training, and do not fear the hordes of Judas. I, without sin, shall cast the first stone. That will be your sign to attack! But you shall not fight this unholy enemy with stones. No! RAZOR GLANDES! Aim for the eyes! May the Lord have mercy, for we shall show none!“ -Jesus the Noodler

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