I been keeping an eye on this,  as i have a friend in the middle of philly, and my family is only in the next county then you. I am so thankful we moved, so i dont have to worry too much about myself.

I’m so torn on this issue. There’s lots of good police out there but there’s some really bad apples in this particular bunch. Not only the police screwed up but the EMS involved from what I saw were not following any standard protocols I’ve heard of. Unless maybe they were trying to get him out to a safer area before starting cardiac arrest protocols.

There has been some very questionable stories about “police brutality” mixed in with the real cases like this one. Which I think just fans the division more. But this man was murdered. I can’t imagine what was going through this cops mind when he was kneeling on his neck for 7 mins straight. What other outcome did he expect to happen?

The exact same thing happened in Minneapolis in 2010.  Kneeled on a man's neck to "restrain" him.  Guy died.  Family got 10 million for wrongful death.  No idea if the officer was charged with anything. 

You'd think that the PD would have stopped using the tactic after a death.

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unfortunately in the last 50 years this kind of thing has become pretty common.

One thing I am curious about is how many white people die in police 'custody each year in the states.

Is it just that the occasional and totally barbaric deaths of black americans makes better news ?

Yeah the policeman is down for plain murder.

And that's been done.

We had riots in the uk a few years back for similiar reasons.

Protests I can understand.
But in the areas where riots happen, many of the businesses and properties  are owned by ethnic folk.
It's just criminal pure and simple.

I know trump wants to shoot people - me I like water cannon.


The really sad thing is that for those of us observing the states from the outside these last few years - there is nothing surprising about this whole situation.
When you have a man in charge who boasts that he could murder someone in broad daylight and get away with it - how surprising is it when those who look up to him do that very thing.

    The truth is that Floyd's murder was just one tragic example among countless others of the very well documented systematic racism of police. 

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/02/the-role-of-structural-racism-in-police-v...

https://www.tvguide.com/news/essential-shows-documentaries-learn-police-brutalit...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

I understand,  that the cop went too far, with excessive force. I have had it done to me in NJ years ago. I got long hair, and a  beard. So most cops thought i had a weapon or drugs on me. I have never been arrested before.  But the guy was trying to use a fake $20,  that right there is a crime. The looting a cheesecake factory restuarant, and all these liquor  stores getting robbed. Its ridiculous, mostly young kids doing this stuff, who never were properly disciplined as children due to society, and thier personal environment growing up. My own personal experience with black on white crime, i just became another statistic, but thats a totally unrelated to this situation. 

But as Tomas said about it 'getting forgotten 'it most likely will unfortunately.  Its been happening like that the last few years with these riots. They go on for a few weeks, everything calms down. People keep talking about it for a few months, then everything goes calm until the next 'incident ' happens. Its just a cycle that we have been going through the last few years.

Well as I see it, the protests are about police brutality, it just so happens minorities in the states are disproportionally subjected to that brutality. Having a cop kneel on someone's kneck for 8+ minutes, while 3 of their colleagues stand around like it's ok, that right there is enough to protest even before you mention the guy who was murdered was black.
vetryan15 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 7:17am:

I know the US has the death penalty in some states, but it's not usually administered on the street, by a cop, before the guy has even been charged with anything. I haven't heard the death penalty being handed down for a forged $20 before either.

I don't condone the violence that has been going on, but I see it as really quite understandable. People feel powerless. Who do you call if the police are the ones killing you and you know that the case will just get swept under the rug? They'll get a slap on the wrist and then will move one city over and be back on the beat before the funeral is over. If this same situation happened in Finland, there wouldn't be mass riots in cities across the country because the police here are held accountable and the people trust that justice will be done. Bad cops over here aren't shielded and let off with a warning so people don't feel powerless and then don't try to take that power back by pushing back. Another point is how many of these instances of violence have been exacerbated if not outright started by the police. Badge numbers hidden, body cameras mysteriously losing hours of footage, dressed in military garb with sticks, guns and mace. Look at the difference between this and the lockdown protests. People turning up with AR15s and the police let them walk right into capitol buildings. Again, I don't want people to be violent, I don't want anything to be burnt to the ground, but, quite frankly, you Americans shouldn't be surprised by this. This was coming for a long time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/gv57ho/philadelphia_pd_putting...