That brings up an interesting point Greenjay.  How many rotations does it take before it becomes a spin?  Morphy mention using approximately two rotations.  As do I.  But these rotations are part of an overall sequence of motions.

Sometimes I get the sling spinning, and just keep it moving until I feel like going into the throw.  But this isn't often, and just when playing around.  Never when target slinging.

Greenjay wrote on May 29^th, 2020 at 11:44am:


When you say one rotation, do you mean one full rotation before the windup and throw?

I used to do the Greek style for quite a while, but it order to throw powerfully The hand holding the stone had to give it a bit of 'kick' to speed it up before release. Was never able to gauge the weight of the projectile properly as one applies force almost as soon as the stone is released from the hand. However I can see if one threw lightly with the style they may be able to gauge it a bit better. Upon switching to Balearic, my range and accuracy improved quite a bit (I throw inconsistent river stones).
But if what you are doing works for you, stick with it by all means.

I do think feeling the weight of the projectile helps, even if it's just working out (or "feeling" out I guess) how much power to put into the shot.

I think if a rotor works for you that’s all that matters.

For me though I only see two uses for rotors. One, if you’re forced to use inconsistent ammo where you actually need to gauge the weight and two if you are hunting game that are in cover. One person maintains the rotor while the other flushes the game. As soon as the game bolts you can get the shot off.

Gauging weight though with rotors is sort of like using extra long arrows when you have primitive arrows of differing spines. Maybe it’s a bandaid for a less than ideal situation but better to avoid the situation in the first place if you can.

Greenjay wrote on May 30^th, 2020 at 9:12pm:

In that case I agree with you. I think "Byzantine" does indeed give enough time to guage the weight of the projectile. Logically rotating might guage it a bit more though, perhaps at the cost of a worn out wrist down the line

I just use the Quote button to the right of that button, and then write underneath.

joe_meadmaker wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:47am:


How have I never seen this video?? That was excellent slinging man! And the orientation of the camera directly behind the path of the projectile makes for a great shot. Yes that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Rotors are really good for that. Even if I don’t use them much myself there’s no denying the ability to have your sling ready for an instant shot has advantages.

This was the same idea I was tinkering with years ago when I was working on the “Overshoulder” throw. Which is a no rotor instant throw, like the Apache but faster to get off once in the position. Also same idea behind the Semisling.

Are you still making videos Joe? I didn’t have a chance to look through your channel. Think I have a new channel to subscribe to. 

Kick wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 5:54am:


Yeah, tried that but it still doesn't work,should mention I'm using a kindle fire so maybe that's why I'm having trouble?

One rotation is still a spin.  Just sayin'....