IronGoober
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The whole point of quarantining and mask wearing was to stop transmission of the virus. This is possible if everyone complied and there was enough contact tracing and quarantining until the virus was purged from infected persons' systems. Look at Asia, New Zealand. It is possible. The U.S. as a whole, chose to ignore how to fight a pandemic and stop transmission of the virus for the perceived sake of people's personal freedom.
Masks are also a very viable way of reducing transmission. If they didn't work, every single hospital worker would become infected. Go find the rates of transmission to hospital workers, who have to wear a ton of PPE. It is WAY lower than the general population. PPE works, and masks are a major part of it.
Wear a mask when you are around anyone that you aren't living with. Period. Stop being a whiny jackass about wearing a mask. It protects people around you.
You are not protecting yourself, you are protecting others that you could unknowingly infect by either being asymptomatic (have it but won't show symptoms) or pre-symptomatic (have it and will eventually show symptoms). That person could may be fine if they get it, but the chain of infection could kill someone who is more vulnerable. THAT is the logic. Protect OTHERS by wearing a mask. If everyone took this mindset, this pandemic wouldn't be nearly the problem it is.
On the topic of critical cases in a hospital, I have several horror stories from doctors and nurses that I know. One was that there were so many critical cases coming in that there were times when helicopters would be hovering around their hospital waiting for a bed to open up. When one would (i.e. a death), they would land and then take off to pick up the next case. Of course this isn't the norm, but the person was questioning how anyone cannot see pandemic as a major crisis, or question its reality.
Reopening isn't making the outbreak worse? How are you coming to that conclusion. Coronavirus cases didn't start really climbing UNTIL places started to reopen. California, case and point. People coming into contact with others without any protection for extended periods (i.e. bars, restaurants, gyms, etc.) are the main source of transmission. It wasn't happening when people stayed home. Of course RM is correct, reopening has to occur eventually, but if everyone was proactive against not transmitting it to others (and stopped just thinking about themselves and what contraction would mean to them without thinking about what it means to others) the virus could be stopped enough that things could reopened safely. (this is my opinion, but based on the PPE evidence that is out there).
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