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Problems with slings
Feb 7th, 2020 at 5:35pm
 
I’m curious... what are your biggest frustrations with the sling?
Let’s get the obvious big one out of the way: for the same amount of practice, accuracy is poor compared to something like a bow, a slingshot, or a rifle.

What other things annoy you or frustrate you about slings?

I have my own opinions, but I want to hear what others say before I chime in with my own list.
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Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2020 at 5:45pm
 
My biggest one is probably cords getting tangled up while braiding.  Although I recently made an adjustment to how I set things up, so it's not nearly as big a problem as it was.

Regarding usage, if you get the release cords a little too long, the sling will let you know with a little crack on the hand every time you throw.  Some cordage types seems to be much worse with this than others.
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Reply #2 - Feb 7th, 2020 at 6:41pm
 
Interesting topic.

1)Rate of fire:  the fact that you put your whole body into motion to perform a powerful throw adds time to reloading and resetting for the next shot.

2)Too many variables that we cannot isolate easily so that we can analyse get feedback and improve upon.

for example ideal sling length : is there ideal sling length for a slinger?(can't realy test because of being used to sling with a given length) does the style change w/ sling length? should it change? is there an ideal style for human mechanics? what is efficient what is effective? which styles/slings are more accurate/consistent yet powerful?
habit and skill will blur the results of experiments.
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Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2020 at 10:46pm
 
Other than the obvious I think they’re great, not many complaints from me.
A few minor ones would be
Difference in opinion between slingers on names of throwing styles.
Super smooth spheres in split pouches.
Lots of movement to start the shot, bad in close range hunting.
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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 1:33am
 
I agree with all of thethe above but I think the difficulty in maintaining consistency in shots is the biggest problem, related to what Sarosh has said. It's difficult to know what to change or adjust of you feel like you're doing the same movement each time with a big variance in where the ammo goes. It's never going to be like firing a gun although it can be argued that this is a plus. You will always have the drive to get those perfect shots because they are that much rarer (for most of us hobby slingers at least Cheesy). The recent video I put up was so satisfying. Completely unedited from turning on the camera to turning it off, one throw, one perfect hit. Getting that, despite it being surrounded by misses, made going out there worthwhile.
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Reply #5 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 7:46am
 
3) We can shoot further than we can see + combined with inconsistency=> we can't get immediate feedback on long range shots.
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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 9:38am
 
That's a good point too. The only reason I know I've thrown 190m is that I was throwing on a frozen lake that had a very thin layer of snow on it so the stones were easy to find.
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 10:21am
 
General lack of interest in slinging amongst most people.  I'm so jealous of slingers that have other slingers nearby (meaning close enough to get together).  I've had several of my friends try slinging.  It was a good time for them, but nothing they would do on their own, or suggest as an activity we do together.

I think that's why I like the Online Challenges topic so much.  Keeps me engaged. Wink
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Reply #8 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 11:05am
 
What joe said, this also means accessibility issues I'm lucky I can sling where I sling . I constantly look for an alternative range
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Reply #9 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 12:41pm
 
This is one of the reasons I'm so looking forward to the international competition. It will be the first time I actually will get to sling with other people. A few friends and family have tried a few swings and said "That seems quite difficult" and never wanted anything to do with it again.
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Reply #10 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 12:59pm
 
Slinging like a pro one day and being awfull the next one, without knowing why.
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Reply #11 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 2:00pm
 
Retrieving a lead glans. Tennis balls, rusty balls or even stones are somewhat findable. A lead glans, once it's shot, it's usually gone forever.

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Reply #12 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 6:56pm
 
Mersa wrote on Feb 7th, 2020 at 10:46pm:
Other than the obvious I think they’re great, not many complaints from me.


100% agree. Focus should not be on the negative aspects, but I started this thread to think about ways to make slinging even better.

Here’s a couple of mine:
It’s hard to shove a sling in a pocket without creating a tangled mess unless you carefully wind the cords first and then you have to unwind them to use it.

The release cord whips things in front of you and can wrap around tree branches.



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Reply #13 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 8:42pm
 
Trying to find the 'perfect' slinging method. Slinging has so much variation in technique which is both a blessing and a curse...
My criteria:
Powerful (both short and long range), accurate (with different weighted stones), takes up little room, quick to load and shoot, easy to learn, and preferably uses only one hand. Such a method does not seem to exist...

I have tried and practised with every method I can find or read, and I have narrowed it down to my favorites: Balearic, the 'Whip' technique, and the two-hand behind the back overhand (something I came up with by trial and error).
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Reply #14 - Feb 9th, 2020 at 2:24am
 
Archaic Arms wrote on Feb 8th, 2020 at 8:42pm:
Trying to find the 'perfect' slinging method. Slinging has so much variation in technique which is both a blessing and a curse...
My criteria:
Powerful (both short and long range), accurate (with different weighted stones), takes up little room, quick to load and shoot, easy to learn, and preferably uses only one hand. Such a method does not seem to exist...

I have tried and practised with every method I can find or read, and I have narrowed it down to my favorites: Balearic, the 'Whip' technique, and the two-hand behind the back overhand (something I came up with by trial and error).


That last one is the Turkey Throw! RS would be proud.
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"Nothing matters, but it’s perhaps more comfortable to keep calm and not interfere with other people." - H.P. Lovecraft, in a letter to Frank Belknap Long, 7 October, 1923
 
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