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Caldou Funditor Offline Moving the world... rock by rock. Posts: 779 Picardie, France	Re: CALL FOR ALL SPANISH SHEPHERDS TO FORM LIGHT COMPANIES OF SLINGERS (AGAINST Reply #15 - Feb 14^th, 2020 at 4:15pm Well, let me dust off my slings and I will show you what a French can do... (I can pretty much miss all the target you can set, are you up to the challenge ? :p)
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Re: CALL FOR ALL SPANISH SHEPHERDS TO FORM LIGHT COMPANIES OF SLINGERS (AGAINST
Reply #16 - Feb 14^th, 2020 at 5:52pm

Samuel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

Lithera wrote on Feb 9th, 2020 at 3:22am:
I own and shoot a flintlock musket (Brown Bess) and can rather easily get off 4 aimed rounds a minute, and 5 rounds a minute if I warm up first (no time to aim though). I would say that the smoothbore musket has man-sized accuracy up to about 100 yards (Any more than that, then luck begins to enter into the equation).

I'm not an expert at all. Never fired a musket. Apparently a rate of 5 to 6 shots per minute was technically possible, but after the first minutes it dropped to 2 or 3, or even lower.

Check this video (rate of fire is around 9:40 mins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3wlU3eYsc

It says also that they usually sacrificed accuracy for mass shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zViyZGmBhvs
it seems human psychology is far more important than rate of fire or weapon specs.

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Reply #17 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:17pm

Samuel wrote on Feb 9^th, 2020 at 2:33pm:

Archaic Arms wrote on Feb 8^th, 2020 at 8:22pm:

I own and shoot a flintlock musket (Brown Bess) and can rather easily get off 4 aimed rounds a minute, and 5 rounds a minute if I warm up first (no time to aim though). I would say that the smoothbore musket has man-sized accuracy up to about 100 yards (Any more than that, then luck begins to enter into the equation).

I'm not an expert at all. Never fired a musket. Apparently a rate of 5 to 6 shots per minute was technically possible, but after the first minutes it dropped to 2 or 3, or even lower.

Check this video (rate of fire is around 9:40 mins): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw3wlU3eYsc

It says also that they usually sacrificed accuracy for mass shooting.

By the way, I have being checking some writings from the wars of independence in Latin America against the Spaniards (roughly the same period) and there are many references to entire battalions of slingers, even engaging in open battle. I should get some time and translate some for the forum.

Oh wow now this sounds interesting also
Already some reference or the original text would be great, I do speak some Spanish.

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Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:20pm

What does fit in here are the Arquebuses de Sancerre, which are only somewhat earlier in France, highly efficient use of slings by rebels to repel a siege of the King of France.
They were so famous the opposition in Parliament in France still called Le Fronde (The Sling)
Against unarmourd soldiers surely a devastating effect.

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Re: CALL FOR ALL SPANISH SHEPHERDS TO FORM LIGHT COMPANIES OF SLINGERS (AGAINST
Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:58am

funditor wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Oh wow now this sounds interesting also
Already some reference or the original text would be great, I do speak some Spanish.

Hi Funditor, you want the original about the shepherds or about the Latin American revolutions??

For the shepherds here you can download it directly: http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000147284&page=1

If you are not very fluent in Spanish is gonna be a bit hard, because it is kind of old-Spanish-lower-class-slang.

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Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:05am

Regarding Latin América:

https://books.openedition.org/ifea/1821?lang=es

https://scielo.conicyt.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0719-12432017000200
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https://books.google.es/books?id=Lc2GgVEytnMC&pg=PT44&lpg=PT44&dq=honderos+guerr
a+de+independencia&source=bl&ots=kvj5n_PWc0&sig=ACfU3U1dlPE8G5Mn1fu6JnNH3AdqxCwb
TA&hl=es&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwifwuvx1rfnAhWK3OAKHU8lBYEQ6AEwE3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=ho
nderos%20guerra%20de%20independencia&f=false

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