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Reply #150 - Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 10:34am

Good find on the Rocktite BlindSquirrel. Ive been looking for something to replace concrete thats easier to use. I imagine theres a cost trade off here but the results suggest it might be worth it. Those are very nice glandes.

Ive killed one squirrel with a stone. It was hand thrown. Probably 5 ounces and killed it pretty much instantly. Went hunting them a few times in a serious manner but turns out squirrels are tough to hit with slings. Who wouldve guessed eh? Wink

I agree with some of the other posts, for my slinging speed something in the range of 4.5 - 5 ounces (120-140 grams) was plenty for squirrel or rabbit. If I was a faster slinger a smaller glande wouldve sufficed Im sure.

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Reply #152 - Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 2:00pm

Blindsquirrel wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 11:14am:

Sweet, glad its working out. I’m still looking for other thing that have similar properties, and r cheaper. But for custom ammo that is only limited by ur imagination and ability to make a mold it’s the best I’ve found so far.
I’m going to mold in arrow inserts, so as to be able to screw in broadheads or field points to c what happens, like the razor glandes made from lead I saw on here somewhere.

Nice I like the idea of the arrow inserts
Not so much of the razor glances
With we all know are among my favorites
But. Possibly for ju-ju points
With help keep arrows from
Being lost in the grass and sod
Definitely a future experiment

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Reply #154 - Nov 2^nd, 2022 at 5:56pm

I have put so much time and thought into the “ammo” issue.
I think a serious issue is the losability.
Anything that takes too much time effort or money to produce and doesn’t have a good recovery rate or serious advantage over stones will likely be replaced by stones .
Stones are hard to beat for the most part because of the economic benefits.

I still think there’s a design that would be better but price seems to be the limiting factor

Razor glandes, Aim for the eyes!!!

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Mersa Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Druid Posts: 2612 Australia Gender:	Re: Sling hunting? Reply #157 - Nov 3^rd, 2022 at 9:54am Interested to see how it flys My prediction is it will tumble approximately 40% of the time . And durability will also be interesting. But if you get a clean riffled release. Deadly!!!!!!!
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IronGoober Interfector Viris Spurii Offline ...and now, No. 1, the larch... Posts: 1690 California Gender:	Re: Sling hunting? Reply #158 - Nov 4^th, 2022 at 11:53am Not sure if you are doing this, but after they initially cure, soak them in water for a week. They will gain much more strength. 1 month is best. Learned that from Sarosh. https://theconstructor.org/concrete/concrete-compressive-strength-variation-with -time/5933/ See figure 3
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Reply #159 - Nov 4^th, 2022 at 2:27pm

Concrete gains strength by reacting with water, the chemical reaction that turns the cement into concrete requires water. If you take out the water, it can't happen and the concrete stops changing/improving. So, really, the full strength concrete should end up being the weight of the powder + water.

Fully cured concrete is stronger than most stones in my experience.

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Reply #160 - Nov 4^th, 2022 at 2:31pm

That is what I'm saying. You DON'T want them to lose the weight. Getting them to react with the water, with their final state, will mean that they weigh the same as the powder + water (if your ratio is correct for how much water is required to react).

Concrete doesn't "dry", it reacts. The water gets incorporated into the structure, some of the water chemically reacts and splits into H2 and O, and then attaches to other molecules, and some of it stays H2O and gets incorporated into the crystal structure. Eventually, you will lose some water mass, but much of it goes into the structure rather than evaporates.

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IronGoober Interfector Viris Spurii Offline ...and now, No. 1, the larch... Posts: 1690 California Gender:	Re: Sling hunting? Reply #161 - Nov 4^th, 2022 at 9:31pm Of course, I like to share the information I learn, especially when it's something so useful and I, myself, am so surprised to learn. Really, thank Sarosh/Acroballistics, I saw it on his channel and looked up why he was doing it.
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Reply #162 - Nov 9^th, 2022 at 6:22pm

IronGoober wrote on Nov 4^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Not sure if you are doing this, but after they initially cure, soak them in water for a week. They will gain much more strength. 1 month is best. Learned that from Sarosh.

https://theconstructor.org/concrete/concrete-compressive-strength-variation-with
-time/5933/

See figure 3

Nice I will find this out in a couple days
I have just soaked twenty one of mine for over a week
Will test them out in a day or two
But they definitely seem harder

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