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Practice ammo
Mar 30th, 2019 at 9:13pm
 
I bought a dozen foam (American) footballs. As ammo goes they’re a lot of fun!  They hold a great spiral coming out of the sling. Not the cheapest ammunition, but it might be a good alternative to sockballs.  They weigh 14g, and you can even get a good curve on it thanks to the Magnus Effect.

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Reply #1 - Mar 30th, 2019 at 11:08pm
 
Cool idea!  With the fairly small weigh to size ratio, I'd think they wouldn't fly very far.  But the shape could help counter that.  What kind of range do you get with them?
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Reply #2 - Mar 30th, 2019 at 11:17pm
 
My back yard only gives me about 30 or 40 feet. Based on the one that went over the fence I’d say you could probably get at least double or triple that, but I haven’t tried yet.
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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 1:55am
 
Look like a good choice for sling wars, safety glasses on and let's go!!
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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 7:24am
 
Years ago I tried the small nerf footballs that had tails, since I was still new to the sling, i didn't have good luck. But now they are packed away from my move. So if i ever come across em again, i will try again.  I thought they would be good for the sling dodgeball game, 'fundaball'
These look promising though.
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Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2019 at 1:43pm
 
I have these small American football shaped bouncy balls that are the perfect size and weight for slinging but are just too bouncy and hard. They could take someone's eye out I'm sure and they're super unpredictable just dropping them let alone coming out of a sling. I've kpt them around just incase I ever want to make a mould using them.
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Reply #6 - Apr 2nd, 2019 at 3:07pm
 
Hmmm, you could use polyurethane expanding building foam and inject into a mould or just carve into shape.

pretty cheap and if you confine it initially it stays fairly dense.
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Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 7:30pm
 
Came across this the other day, and I just had to try it out.
Got some double-dot squash balls and filled them with .177 steel bbs, and they came out at exactly 100g. I recon a stone of the same size would weigh about the same.
I think "Joe" balls could be a serious competitor to Rusty Balls as stone-equivalent practice ammo.
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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 8:05am
 
A squash ball filled with lead or iron shot, is totally lethal and so similar to a 'sap' that it'd probably be illegal most places.

Try filling one with sand.
I mean still lethal, but possibly not quite as illegal as the lead shot version.

I have tried squash balls filled with sand, doesn't seem to matter what you seal the initial slit with, it will split.
I also seem to recall that I was knocking the mortar out of the wall with them.
Some serious impact.
Probably a thread around about it somewhere.

Likewise rusty balls are anything but safe.
Their only real redeeming factor is that they dont ricochet.
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 9:56am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Aug 2nd, 2021 at 8:05am:
A squash ball filled with lead or iron shot, is totally lethal and so similar to a 'sap' that it'd probably be illegal most places.

Yes, like rusty balls they are certainly not for playing sling tag with...
The point of these is to be a stone substitute, that can be used to throw at hard surfaces without causing damage. Because of their weight and density, they facilitate accurate slinging.
What is a 'sap'? all I can find under that name is the weighted beavertail slapping thing. As a ball on it's own
I don't see how it could be considered anything different (under the law) to something like a medicine ball. They are both rubber balls filled with sand or metal shot. (albeit one is substantially bigger than the other)
 
Oh and these balls don't ricochet either like rusty balls, and they are not deformed when you go to pick them up.
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:15am
 
still looking around for the perfect practice ammo.
I like rusties but they are not durable enough for me
my requirements are-
- fabrication complete, no need for homemade, so I can just buy a bulk
- ~100 g in weight
- biconical in shape, no balls
- durable
- soft on impact, rubber?
- not overly large, must have some density
- not $20 a piece
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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:21am
 
J wrote on Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:15am:
still looking around for the perfect practice ammo.
I like rusties but they are not durable enough for me
my requirements are-
- fabrication complete, no need for homemade, so I can just buy a bulk
- ~100 g in weight
- biconical in shape, no balls
- durable
- soft on impact, rubber?
- not overly large, must have some density
- not $20 a piece

Keep on dreaming  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:25am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Aug 2nd, 2021 at 8:05am:
I have tried squash balls filled with sand, doesn't seem to matter what you seal the initial slit with, it will split.

I've made some improvements and I think I've solved the splitting issue. First line of defense though is choosing the right adhesive, which needs to be strong and flexible. I think that's what Joe found with neoprene adhesive.
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Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 10:26am
 
Maybe a rubber biconical with a small steel core for the weight
It would likely have to be homemade, casting the rubber around a steel core in a mold
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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2021 at 12:00pm
 
J if you could find mini footballs made from the same dense foam rubber that the soft baseballs are made from that would pretty much be what you are looking for.

Alternatively if you could buy the material you could maybe pour into a mold (yes I know that would mean you would have to make them  Wink) but still it would work. And once made they would last quite awhile.
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