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What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:03pm
 
I noticed modern day Ba[/media]laeric/Spanish slingers use a slit pouch sling made of some sort of plant material. Is what we see being used now the same style of sling that existed back in the Roman era???? Or are the fellows using a design that came about more recently?---John
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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #1 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 5:04pm
 
We know of Balearic slingers as mercenaries from just before 300 BCE down to say 50 BCE; the islanders fought against the Roman expedition led by Q. Metellus in 123 and 122 BCE; the inhabitants of the islands are not mentioned as military slingers during the Roman empire, though Balearic as an adjective for the sling is used very commonly  in that period (e.g. in the poet Ovid). Of course, people certainly used slings on the island before and after the mentions of slinging in war.

There is no evidence for what the Balearic slings looked like during antiquity. What there is some references for  material: Strabo 3.5.1 C 168 mentions sinew, rushes, hair--

"On account of the same fertility of their islands, however, the inhabitants are ever the object of plots, albeit they are peaceable; still they are spoken of as the best of slingers. And this art they have practised assiduously, so it is said, ever since the Phoenicians took possession of the islands. And the Phoenicians are also spoken of as the first to clothe the people there in tunics with a broad border; but the people used to go forth to their fights without a girdle on — with only a goat-skin, wrapped round the arm, or with a javelin that had been hardened in the fire (though in rare cases it was also pointed with a small iron tip), and with three slings worn round the head, of black-tufted rush (that is, a species of rope-rush, out of which the ropes are woven; [and Philetas, too, in his "Hermeneia" says, "Sorry his tunic befouled with dirt; and round about him his slender waist is entwined with a strip of black-tufted rush," meaning a man girdled with a rush-rope), of black-tufted rush, I say], or of hair or of sinews: the sling with the long straps for the shots at short range, and the medium sling for the medium shots. And their training in the use of slings used to be such, from childhood up, that they would not so much as give bread to their children unless they first hit it with the sling.138 This is why Metellus, when he was approaching the islands from the sea, stretched hides above the decks as a protection against the slings. And he brought thither as colonists three thousand of the Romans who were in Iberia."

The quote from Philetas is probably an ancient gloss, interpolated in the text, so I've put it in square brackets. Virgil mentions flax:

Virgil Georgics 1.309
tum figere dammas,
stuppea torquentem Balearis verbera fundae,

Winter is the time to "strike down does, by twisting the flaxen thongs of the Balearic sling".

So it's a braided sling, made of fibre, hair, or sinew; there is no evidence for the actual design, but the well-known split pouch is at least likely.
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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #2 - Jan 15th, 2015 at 7:13am
 
well if they take three slings - it's fairly safe bet they're different lengths for different distances.

I would think the slings would be very similiar to the modern day ones. But with finer longer models for distance slinging.

Unfortunately distance slinging isn't a big part of modern balearic slinging. So it's possible those designs have fallen by the wayside.
They still have distance compatitions - but they use the same bloody big rocks they use for target slinging Smiley

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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #3 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
Not exactly a sling description, but it helps give an idea of the technique.
Diodoros of Sicily, writing in the 1st cent. BC gives an account of the missiles at the Battle pf Ekonomos.
Book XIX-- "but when Hamilcar saw that his men were being overpowered. he brought up the slingers, who came from the Balearic islands, and numbered at least 1000. By hurling a shower of stones, they wounded men and even killed not a few who they were attacking, and shattered the defensive armor of most of them. For the men were accustomed to sling stones weighing a mina (1.25 lbs) contribute a great deal to victory in battle"
  With ammo that big, a split pouch seems to be the best choice, at least in my opinion.
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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #4 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 11:46am
 
Hadrian's Column has slingers as does some of the Babalonian friezes, they seem to show split pouch designs.
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Reply #5 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 12:13pm
 
I don't think they do, they're seen sideways on so they look like a single strap. The Etruscan tomb relief discussed on the forum a few years back seem to have a split pouch, but with a single strand across the middle, no ?
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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #6 - Jan 16th, 2015 at 9:53pm
 
slingbadger wrote on Jan 16th, 2015 at 7:08am:
Not exactly a sling description, but it helps give an idea of the technique.
Diodoros of Sicily, writing in the 1st cent. BC gives an account of the missiles at the Battle pf Ekonomos.
Book XIX-- "but when Hamilcar saw that his men were being overpowered. he brought up the slingers, who came from the Balearic islands, and numbered at least 1000. By hurling a shower of stones, they wounded men and even killed not a few who they were attacking, and shattered the defensive armor of most of them. For the men were accustomed to sling stones weighing a mina (1.25 lbs) contribute a great deal to victory in battle"
  With ammo that big, a split pouch seems to be the best choice, at least in my opinion.


With ammo that big my arms would be a useless wiggly noodle after a few throws....geez.....----John
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Re: What did Baelaric slings look like in Roman era?
Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2015 at 12:34pm
 
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As for the famous Balearic of the classical period , is not sufficiently clear how to construct their slings. In the chapter "Iberian and Carthaginian" we saw as Strabo says that the Iberians "around the head have three black esparto slings, made with bristle and sinew." Other translations Strabo of these materials as alternative "slings of black rush, bristle or sinew." Possibly all possible combinations are used, there slings entirely made of horsehair and others only esparto, but more effective and practical would undoubtedly making esparto reinforced between vegetable fiber mixed mane, and the necessary bonds made ​​with sinew.

Design of the Balearic sling we repeated reference and Livy's chapter "The Greeks", which compares sling Achaeans with the Spaniard. Says that it consists of a single strap (or braid). Not so the currently used in the islands, made of vegetable fiber, braided into a cord that splits into two at the central part. If we adopted the interpretation is correct, the text of Livy would really referring to a single strap or braid along the Balearic sling, while the Achaeans would be split into three strands form the bag.

Moreover we know that the design of the current Balearic sling is not native to the islands, but corresponds to a sling peninsular tradition, Andalusian almost certainly.

Although we do not know the structure of the ancient Balearic sling, according to the above considerations one might think in a sling of braid that widens in the middle to form the bag, traditional design used in many places. It remains a further study on this, certainly stimulated by the epic significance reached Balearic slingers in the ancient orb.

In the past century (19th century) it has been used in Baleares the pocket formed by three and even four strings, as shown shepherd's sling (3). Ends in tassel and the four strands intersect in the middle, forming a cross of St. Andrew. Regarding braiding technique usually employed in typical women braids, called "trunyella" in Mallorca.


http://perso.wanadoo.es/hondero/HONDASe.pdf
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