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Reply #15 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:25am
 
Thearos wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 4:33pm:
So why have a shield at all during slinging ? (the evidence is of course on Trajan's Column; I can't think of any Greek images). I assume for two or three reasons.

I found  this the other day looking  for new tattoo  ideas.
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Reply #16 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:29am
 
I`m not going to have a tattoo any time soon but if I should I`d probably have something like that Wink
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Reply #17 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:54am
 
Great shooting by Mr Jaegoor, as always.
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Reply #18 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:04pm
 
A good loading, Timann!

Vetryan 15 image is an illustrative.
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Reply #19 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 6:19pm
 
timpa wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:04pm:
A good loading, Timann!

Vetryan 15 image is an illustrative.



Still looks good. Though.

I am sure I have found  some authentic  images of sling with shields  I will have to recheck.
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Reply #20 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 8:46am
 
Great slinging Jaegoor.

Also, while it may take some training, I can see the benefit to a shield in mass infantry battle to the slinger. For instance, against an army of archers. While slingers may be capable of out-ranging them, some evidence  that we've gone over before shows that battles may have occurred at closer ranges, where either weapon can reach equally.

In addition, I have not seen any slingers wearing any kind of armor. This makes relocation easier, but it also leaves them fairly defenseless in the event of a counterattack. You can only dodge so many arrows before you get hit, and with no armor, it'd really do a fair amount of damage.

Now if the slinger is already protected by a castle wall or by natural terrain features, the shield becomes less important.
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Reply #21 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 9:03am
 
Vetryan 15's picture is a line drawing from a scene on Trajan's column.
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Reply #22 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 11:20am
 
lol that buckler was so small I didn't actually see it at first.
Looks like a small saucepan lid.

And yep - don't see any real issues with slinging with a shield. 

Like jaegoors video. But the shots weren't hard enough to release a shield that someone was actualy holding on to. Nice gimmick though.
There were numerous other actual combat issues there - but a good bit of fun Thumbs Up
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Reply #23 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:09pm
 
What size is the smallest found in the historic shield?
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Reply #24 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 12:48pm
 
There are archaeological examples of bucklers surviving:

http://archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/medieval/Objects/329496/

and the I.33 ms shows a variety of sizes--

http://schwertfechten.ch/html/i33/i33aen.html#01

The one Tinman is using is clearly the steel buckler by the some Indian company (GRFB). Medieval bucklers are quite small, 40-45cm, hanging at the belt, used with a single-handed sword.

But of course, there's no reason why a slinger, ancient or medieval, should have a small shield-- except for one reason: slingers have to be able to move quickly, in combat and out of it.
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Reply #25 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 1:18pm
 
corious A stone destroyed a shield. I used a Rusty ball. It was just a workout.
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Reply #26 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 1:18pm
 
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Reply #29 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 5:06pm
 
great pictures Jaegoor
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