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Osage bow?
Aug 6th, 2014 at 5:20pm
 
I've been wanting to try making a bow out of some Osage orange wood, which I've heard can work.  Does anyone here know how I should go about curing my stave?
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Reply #1 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 1:09am
 
Well, yes.   I would recommend buying the Primitive Bowyer's Bible volume one which as I recall has specific directions on this and what to look for in a stave.
I built one about 3 years ago and it turned out very well... I was very lucky to have been gifted a very nice, straight, knot-free stave to work with.
That's often the big problem... Osage tends to be both twisty and knotty...  This is wonderful for experienced bowyers who like to make "character bows".....  But rough for a first effort.

There are several sources from which you can buy a nice, straight, knot-free stave ready to go.  I would recommend that unless you have access to a lot of osage lumber and are experienced at splitting out staves.

The nature of the wood is that there are two types of layers.. The soft, spongy "new growth" rings, and the hard, durable "late growth" rings.
Ideally, you want a stave with a good, thick, late-growth ring near what will be the back of the bow.
Then, you have to remove any other rings to get to a clear, continuous ring of this late-growth wood.
This is best done with something rather dull.... I used an old machete.  Held in both hands like a draw-knife.
A dull draw-knife is good...
The reason for the "dull" part is that you don't want to be cutting into your late-growth ring.

You just want to peel your way through the spongy stuff to expose that hard, continuous ring.
Once you do that.... Shaping and tillering the stave is pretty much standard as you'd do to anything else.  All work is done on the "belly" side of the bow... the back remains untouched.
(You can smooth it if you like... I put a cosmetic backing on mine... A big old blacksnake skin)

Again, the book goes into considerable detail.   Osage is great bow wood, tough and springy.
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Reply #2 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 10:13am
 
You need to PM Dan and set up a meeting, he's not too far from you. 

There is nothing like being able to sit down with someone who has actually made an osage bow and have them explain what they are doing.  It is not really difficult once you understand the process but until you do, you can get really frustrated.
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Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 1:01pm
 
After some research, I've learned that you can make OK bows from a standard board, provided it is the right wood and straight-grained. 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bjiPXuuKFa4
Maybe a more appropriate (cheap) material for a first attempt that will probably end up in shambles.  Tongue
Thanks for all your advice, though.
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Reply #4 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 5:33pm
 
Board bows are great.  I've made several.   The trick is to pick out a good-grained piece of lumber to start, and also to apply a backing if you have any doubts at all.
I made a very nice #50 job that's backed with silk, a couple of genuine silk neckties I bought at Goodwill for a buck apiece.

(Boy, are they a pain in the rear to take apart!) 

I'm lucky to have a good hardwood-lumber joint not 5 miles from the house... Guy was very cooperative in helping me look for a good red-oak board.
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Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 1:52am
 
ninja-slinger wrote on Aug 7th, 2014 at 1:01pm:
After some research, I've learned that you can make OK bows from a standard board, provided it is the right wood and straight-grained. 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bjiPXuuKFa4
Maybe a more appropriate (cheap) material for a first attempt that will probably end up in shambles.  Tongue
Thanks for all your advice, though.

so what's the difference between a board and a tree stave? virtually none. Nothing is superiour about tree staves.
Learn to tiller with boards. Much easier than learning on a knotty stave.
Shoots better too.

I usually use a razor sharp drawknife(yes, I can shave with  it) when working tree staves.
That, a mora, a giant hoof rasp, and a machete.
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Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 3:39pm
 
I've heard you can back bows with fiberglass tape and glue...
Should work great for a cheapskate like me!
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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 3:40pm
 
Which woods would you guys reccomend for a board bow?
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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
ninja-slinger wrote on Aug 8th, 2014 at 3:40pm:
Which woods would you guys reccomend for a board bow?


Red oak is the easiest to find because Lowes, Home Depot and others carry them. Hickory is a popular one because hickory is so tough that even beginners can make a working bow from it. Many woods are good for bow making.
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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 5:13pm
 
Red oak board your height OR 64" long.
1x2.
Pick one with parallel lines on every side.
Also no warpage.
Actually get several if you can.
should be $10 or less apiece.
mark the centerlines in both ways.
Then mark 6" from the centerline lengthwise.

Mark 1/4" from the centerline at the tips, and then draw lines from the edge 6" mark to the 1/4" mark.
Much easier to draw...
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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 5:18pm
 
OK here is a cruddy 45-second graphic of it:
This is literally how I made my first longbow.

a hand plane is wonderful for making board bows.
Keeps the tiller extremely even.
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“Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
"You don't think the electricity is off. You check it 3 times to make SURE its off"
"Remember, this is not a scalpel. It is a steel wedge that you will be slamming into knotty wood. Hone accordingly."
 
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