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Sling stiffness
Jan 27th, 2014 at 5:37pm
 
2 things- How does sling stiffness affect the comfort of shooting a sling, and how far it goes, as well as release?
How does it affect accuracy?
How does a person get stiff cords without resorting to braiding over a pair of wires
BTW don't do it, it hurts a LOT when it whips you.
Not as much as bare wire though. It also has zero stretch....
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Re: Sling stiffness
Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 6:22pm
 
I have used 2mm curtain cord.  It is a braided nylon cord.  It starts out pretty stiff but gets a little more flexiable as you use it.  I stays a lot stiffer than any natural cordage that I have used.  And it never seems to wear out, I made one right after I started slinging, the ends of the release cords are only slightly frayed after a couple of years or pretty steady slinging.
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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2014 at 6:29pm
 
Curtain cord is crazy stuff.  I have a pretty good stash from an office building demolition job I was on a few years back. I stripped the cords out of half a dozen giant miniblinds. 
If you cannot find a used source, in the industry it is sold as "LIFT CORD". It is surprisingly strong stuff...no wonder why it's so dangerous.  Maybe you can scare some first time expecting moms into giving you all their miniblinds for free.
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Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2014 at 11:32pm
 
How about some pictures of your work this time SSlinger
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 6:21am
 
My slings are stiff because because it's -20 degrees
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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 11:15am
 
Simple--braid tighter Wink
It may take a sling two to get the hang of, but you gotta maintain an even pressure on the strands and sling while braiding to keep it from looking lumpy though.
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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 11:16am
 
Also, even if it seems too stiff to work at first, give it a session or two, and it should break-in nicely. I love slings that have become dense AND supple Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2014 at 8:40pm
 
slingbadger wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 6:21am:
My slings are stiff because because it's -20 degrees


Ha! I have the same predicament
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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 6:48am
 
Have been thinking about making a sling with a stiff release cord for speed slinging.

Was just going to rub some pva glue into paracord. It sets flexible but would stuffen the cord up, stop it tangling and hopefully allow you to get your next shot reloaded quicker.

It's just a theory at the moment.  Wink
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Reply #9 - Feb 6th, 2014 at 1:14pm
 
My nylon slings are my stiffest ones.  I like some degree of stiffness but certain weaves of nylon make a sling that's too stiff. Rather than throw it out I'll combine it with a material that's more limp like jute.  Often I'll combine three or even four different materials in the same cord to get the desired combination of stiffness, limpness, durability, etc... It's a never ending experiment.  I was actually just about to put up a post about that as soon as I take some pictures.
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Reply #10 - Feb 7th, 2014 at 9:42am
 
Stiffness definitely makes a sling "feel" better, but I don't think it actually effects the raw performance of a sling, all things being equal.
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:42am
 
I'm late to the conversation but here's my two cents!
So I figure stiffness does play a role in performance.... For slings of course Wink What I think is stiffness is just another word for suppleness. A more supple sling will be more reactive to even the smallest tweak hither or thither while a stiffer one wouldn't be affected as easily. So perhaps a stiffer sling would be more forgiving and easier to use? Especially since the rock at the end probably twists during a wind up so stiffness would brace it better.
On the flip side a more supple sling should be more dynamic and perform more precisely if the user were skilled enough to handle the added sensitivity. I imagine a supple sling is faster too.
It's a tough decision which is the better way to go methinks lol
My slings usually seem to be somewhere in the middle since they come out stiff but break in. Seeing as I like it when a sling is broken in I'll say I prefer a less stiff sling.
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Re: Sling stiffness
Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2014 at 5:58pm
 
Personally, I think a stiffer release cord tends to release quicker.
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Reply #13 - Mar 18th, 2021 at 4:33pm
 
As it is currently I do believe that a properly balanced sling, when it comes to stiffness, is very beneficial for accuracy, and so is proper knowledge and implementation of pouch angle control.

It's true that a very flexible, light, thin round cord slings are efficient, but essential control for accuracy can be lost. Come to term with the fact there is more to slinging than simple efficency. It might seem counterintuititive to make a sling stiffer heavier or flatter but this is price to be paid for increased control.

I do like the simple 3 and 5 strand tight flat braid for another reason and that is untangling. You can run down your hand and reload very fast.

A 4 strand round braid has corners, and takes longer to straighten out the twist after each shot. You can go up to a 32 round braid (a paracord) and make the sling cord into a near perfect efficient cillinder, and what you get is that some twist less effects the sling, but to get out of the twist after each shot and have it perfectly straight takes way too long. Techically a round braid still has corners that ideally should run down straight.

I think the stiffer flat braid, when I wager everything against each other, is still the way to go, for an all round workhorse sling.
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Reply #14 - Mar 18th, 2021 at 6:37pm
 
That’s why I love my dyneema cord. It’s a weird rectangular braid and only 3-4 mm. It’s flat but also very low stretch . I need to find another cord similar. It’s a very nice cordage for building Mersa slings
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