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Question: Lobbing vs. Throwing

Lobbing    
  6 (10.3%)
Throwing (flatlining)    
  23 (39.7%)
Both have their place    
  27 (46.6%)
I like to kick rocks.....    
  2 (3.4%)




Total votes: 58
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Reply #75 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:01pm
 
lets get back on track.

when I was a kid, out with a slingshot, I learned very quickly that using a larger stone wasn't the answer. hitting a squirrel broad side with the bigger rock moving slower didn't produce tangible results, over reducing the weight by a bit in order to gain a fair amount of speed. the impact diffirence was very clear to my 9 year old self. thats what brought home the bacon/squirrel. Smiley
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Reply #76 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:03pm
 
I get that you don't know me so I'm not going to fight with you about my qualifications. But find the velocity for any 300 gr .45-70 hollow point factory load and compare it to a 20 gr .17 Hornet v-max bullet factory load. There will be at least a 1000 ft/s difference between them and shot placement won't be as critical with the .45-70.
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Pikåru wrote on Nov 19th, 2013 at 6:59pm:
Massi - WTF? It's called a sling. You use it to throw rocks farther and faster than you could otherwise. That's all. 
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Reply #77 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:04pm
 
Thearos wrote on Nov 20th, 2013 at 8:55pm:
Jaegoor, who lobs, killed a deer with his slinging technique-- lobbing heavy stones.


Grin

well here in Canada the deer aren't the size of dogs
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Reply #78 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:10pm
 
Masiakasaurus. I didn't mean to offend. Just a little fun banter. Wink

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Reply #79 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:11pm
 
If I was offended I would've bit the bait, my friend.
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Pikåru wrote on Nov 19th, 2013 at 6:59pm:
Massi - WTF? It's called a sling. You use it to throw rocks farther and faster than you could otherwise. That's all. 
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Reply #80 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 9:18pm
 
Okay ladies. You are both very clever.

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Reply #81 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 10:31pm
 
Careful E_M. Massi is a pretty big wheel down at the cracker factory.  Wink
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Reply #82 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 10:34pm
 
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Reply #83 - Nov 20th, 2013 at 11:13pm
 
I guess I made a good thread. friggin 6 pages. didn;t think that this one would go for as long as it has

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Reply #84 - Nov 21st, 2013 at 8:02pm
 
Heavier, to a point, has always been more efficient in my experience. I look at it as a  bell curve.  I also agree that some of the figures given about the heavier projectile being only 75% slower might be off. Maybe not if your He-Man, otherwise, not likely with your typical target slings.

It's all about sling length, throwing style and the physique of the slinger in my opinion.  I guarantee I could never throw a 7 ounce projectile at 75% of the speed of a 3 ish ounce projectile.  Just isn't going to happen.  At least not with my normal sling length. With a long enough sling though I could probably sling the 7 ouncer almost as fast as the lighter stone. Just another example of why there is no one size fits all sling length.  Tailor fit the sling length to the projectile weight, slingers physique and throwing style.  Just like you would with a bow.

From a lethality point of view, stone profile is just as, or possibly more important than a few ounces of additional weight.  A pointed three ounce projectile should probably kill a deer quite easily, as it will have the profile needed to penetrate into the deers vitals and leave a 2 inch hole in it's wake.
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Reply #85 - Nov 22nd, 2013 at 6:46am
 
Good points. I do wonder if a slung stone will penetrate a deer's hide
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Reply #86 - Nov 22nd, 2013 at 10:08am
 
An interesting and long discussion.

But then I throw 50g or 500g projectile, I will let throw every straight. Smiley
(Except if I will throw the length.)
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Reply #87 - Nov 22nd, 2013 at 6:47pm
 
To Morphy: yes, the issue is those velocities which I entered the KE calculator. 75% lobs was purely impressionistic.
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Reply #88 - Nov 22nd, 2013 at 10:32pm
 
Pikaru, I knap basalt quite a bit, I know the densities change.  However, they don't change that much, if they do, they they aren't basalt anymore, they are pumice or dacite or something else. 

That's why I said that there was something wrong with Mas' picture.  Either some one messed up converting grams to ounces or someone misidentified the type of stone.  I lean towards the last, anthropologists are not geologists. Grin
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Re: Lobbing vs. Throwing
Reply #89 - Nov 23rd, 2013 at 5:01pm
 
When i used my 150cm sling,i could sling fist sized stones almost as far as egg sized ones from the 110cm sling.
And only because i couldn't launch in a high enough elevation,because the very long sling would have hit the ground behind me.

Slinger,sling,slinging technique,and ammo define the shot that delivers the most KE to a set distance.

But saying it simply,according to my experience,bigger stones will hit harder, even if they are much slower.

A 1 pounder stone from my long sling would likely break a pine plank. No way, i could do that with a 2oz stone.
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