A high arching throw is only more powerful than a straight shot if the projectile while approaching terminal velocity, surpasses the speed of the straight shot. to achieve this the shot would have to go very high. even then the projectiles overall terminal velocity(if reached) may not be faster than the powerful straight shot.

Marauder is right on.

Cornhole is a country name for bean bag toss.

Haha, TSG is pretty much done now. No more new entries until after CA sees it.

Note that the point is not whether a lobbed shot is as powerful as a whanged shot-- of course not. The point is whether a lobbed shot is powerful enough, as it drops, to inflict harm when it hits. Which it is.

throwing up hill, a straight shot would have less power because it is at the center of its trajectory (losing KE), this is where the lob would have the advantage, if done properly. A good strong underhand throw could make the lob a great throw style but the so-called "target lob" is kinda annoying. The lob throw in ancient military was close to that of a modern mortar, powerful overhead smash attack (without explosives ).

btw, are there any underhand slingers out there? It seems like my most instinctive style if I ever trained in it. It seems to just always go in the direction I want it to, just the elevation (up/down aiming) is hard for me to get right every time because of the release.

QUOTE- If I really needed to throw over a wall (siege), I'd use sidearm and I'd throw just as hard I normally do, just at an increased angle.-QUOTE

- Dan
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And that sir is a lob in the sidearm style . It doesn't have to be underhand  .

What kind of sidearm? Belaeric?

Thearos wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 6:06am:

That's my stance exactly.

TheSlingin-Injun wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:38am:


Regular sidearm, look it up on YouTube.

No, that is an arced "whanged" shot, similar to what you would use for distance. A lob is a deliberate drop in power in order for more (how much varies significantly per person, for me there's pretty much no difference, but Thearos improved noticeably) controllability in the throw.



The least controversial view is still to say that both have their place... But straight throwing still has way more places. 

Thearos wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 6:06am:


I agree too.

Marauder: You are very often talking about "maximal energy". Please consider that in the formula there are two variables: Mass and velocity. You don't have to increase the speed if you increase the weight.
For me it's much easier to increase the weight of my stones than the speed I'm doing my movements with. Timing is less of a question and I can maintain a similar accuracy. Maximizing speed (= maximizing distance) doesn't play a big role as you will hunt on distances as close as possible. Further the "lobbed" throw will be (more) silent.

For many people what messes up the accuracy when they "whang" is, that they are "forcing" their throw or that they make their movements faster than they can control it. Jaegoor told me this the first time and I experienced this many times with myself and while teaching slinging to other people. So if you "take back your force", you will do your movements at a speed that you can control. Not the energy you put into your throw is the problem. It is the speed or the timing of your movements.

If their technique is fine, they can then put their full power in a heavy stone, which will fly slow and make a high arc but carry a devastating force and hit accurately.

One last physical and also more theoretical point: The velocity is squared in the expression of the kinetic energy. Therefore if you can't manage your shots at full power and have to slow your movements a bit, it is better to take heavy stones and therefore do slower movements as the impact on the "total energy" will be smaller of this decrease of movement velocity.


So my tip: Learn both. Start with slow "lobbed" shots which you can control and then work your way up.