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Feb 7th, 2013 at 12:20pm
 
Lately I've been having fun chucking sharp pointy things.  


I found this video looking around youtube for knife throwing .  I tried this today.  I found I did better when I slung the the knife like sling (as if I'm throwing) verses using it like a weighted rope weapon.  I've been able to stick the knife about 50% from 4 meters.   I used a Cold Steel True flight thrower with a rather dull blade.    It was pretty fun.

I would like to caution that this could be very dangerous.  I've trained with weighted chains in my training in the martial arts, and along with slinging a lot, it felt pretty natural.  I don't mean to be a safety ninny but weights at the end of ropes have a habit of rebounding and hitting people on the head.  Adding a knife that weighs almost a pound, probably makes this one of the most potentially dangerous weapon--  TO THE USER!!!  

MAKE SURE THE KNOT IS TIGHT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Doi9pVe_A
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Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2013 at 3:43pm
 
Man, I used to do this with iron spikes. I stopped when i wrecked the tree I used to hold my archery target.
I must add, if the rope breaks, WATCH OUT!!!
These things can break windows(DUH), dent cars(DUH), and they can kill someone(Now, who wants to get hit with a heavy, sharp, pointy thingee going 100Fps?) I mean, use common sense. range is not really that good, but its enough to be dangerous. I have actually slung small knives I made from my scraps from cutting out other stuff(bigger knives). These penetrate very well, and make an awesome noise(one reason why I still sling them) and can definitly kill game. never tried,but if they do anything like the damage to my wooden target, they are gonna kill!
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EDIT- I used a short rope and stood about 10 feet away. release rope like sling.
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Reply #2 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 12:50pm
 
Doesn't seem very practical. Certainly not very fast. Someone is winding up to throw a kife at you from close range. Seems that if you put only a few more feet between you and the knife twirler you'd reduce the weapon's affectiveness. I've often wondered how effective knife throwing really is. I like tossing knives but it's almost more of a parlor trick and a way to wow your buddies than a true offensive or defensive move. I would almost choose an egg-sized rock or short heavy stick/pipe thrown at that distance than a knife. Axes and hatches are a different thing entirely. Just questioning knives.
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Reply #3 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 4:20pm
 
I could say, "Why practice with a sling?  A gun is much more efficient and practical."

Why do I throw knives and sling?  Because I enjoy it.  A throwing knife attached to a rope is just my newest interest.

So to avoid derailing the thread...  I'll just get the following stated:  Don't bring a knife (or a sling for that matter) to a gunfight, and The knife throwing scene from the Magnificent Seven most likely isn't realistic.  Smiley

Carry on.
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Reply #4 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
RJB wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
I could say, "Why practice with a sling?  A gun is much more efficient and practical."

Why do I throw knives and sling?  Because I enjoy it.  


I agree.

I wasn't poo-pooing your video or anyone's joy at throwing knives. I think I stated that I like to throw as well. The question I was posing was on how effective knife throwing of any kind might be in a real-life situation.
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Reply #5 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm
 
now in a medium-range.... I have little experiance(if any  Wink).....
so I am just guessing, but if you can throw a knife really quick(like flick-your-wrist quick) it might help you in a fight....
Issue- if you miss.... you are weaponless.
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Reply #6 - Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:26pm
 
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm:
now in a medium-range.... I have little experiance(if any  Wink).....
so I am just guessing, but if you can throw a knife really quick(like flick-your-wrist quick) it might help you in a fight....
Issue- if you miss.... you are weaponless.
-squirrel


Again, practicality. Would a wrist flicked knife give sufficient penetration to be lethal?
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Reply #7 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 4:13am
 
RJB wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
I could say, "Why practice with a sling?  A gun is much more efficient and practical."

Why do I throw knives and sling?  Because I enjoy it.  A throwing knife attached to a rope is just my newest interest.

So to avoid derailing the thread...  I'll just get the following stated:  Don't bring a knife (or a sling for that matter) to a gunfight, and The knife throwing scene from the Magnificent Seven most likely isn't realistic.  Smiley

Carry on.

I think the knife throwing scene grom Magnificent Seven is fairly realistic Cheesy
After all he make sure the opponent stand at the spot where the knife hit point first.  And he has the knife in the hand ready to throw when the opponent begins his throw.  Of course it is not realistic that the knife reach him and drop him dead before he can fire his gun.  And those italian switchblades don`t last through many throws, he would have been through lots of them to get enough practice to get that proficient.

I like to throw knives and other stuff but I don`t expect to use it for self defence (or assassinations) all that often Smiley
IF I threw a knife at someone it would be a good reason for it, namely because I had no other choice.  The "weaponless if you throw it"-issue would have no meaning whatsoever because I`d be dead or worse anyway if I didn`t throw it and would have no way to enjoy the continued posession of said knife.

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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 1:33pm
 
Pikåru wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:26pm:
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm:
now in a medium-range.... I have little experiance(if any  Wink).....
so I am just guessing, but if you can throw a knife really quick(like flick-your-wrist quick) it might help you in a fight....
Issue- if you miss.... you are weaponless.
-squirrel


Again, practicality. Would a wrist flicked knife give sufficient penetration to be lethal?

No offense, but think. If you throw a knife with a wrist flick like I do a frisbee, and given that I can throw a frisbee golf disk over 200 feet easily...
I think a wrist flicked knife can penetrate soft tissue.
-Squirrel
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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 1:48pm
 
timann wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 4:13am:
[I think the knife throwing scene grom Magnificent Seven is fairly realistic Cheesy.

I was mostly joking around.  So many times I've seen that brought up in knife throwing conversations.  I just thought I'd be pre-emptive in a fun way.

I agree there most likely wouldn't be an instant death.  However I must confess to whistling the theme song on some occasions when I throw.   Wink
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Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 2:10pm
 
Real knife fights consist of hiding the blade until the last second, getting close and thrusting into the vitals repeatedly.  Much more effective than brandishing something and chucking it.  But I have no interest in committing murder with a knife, so I like throwing an old bowie-style throwing knife a friend gave me from a rev war gathering, and this video looks like fun too.
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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 2:47pm
 
Quote:
Real knife fights consist of hiding the blade until the last second, getting close and thrusting into the vitals repeatedly.  Much more effective than brandishing something and chucking it.  But I have no interest in committing murder with a knife, so I like throwing an old bowie-style throwing knife a friend gave me from a rev war gathering, and this video looks like fun too.

Hm... I never knew that...
I ment in a sort of survivial...
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Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 2:47pm
 
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 1:33pm:
Pikåru wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:26pm:
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm:
now in a medium-range.... I have little experiance(if any  Wink).....
so I am just guessing, but if you can throw a knife really quick(like flick-your-wrist quick) it might help you in a fight....
Issue- if you miss.... you are weaponless.
-squirrel


Again, practicality. Would a wrist flicked knife give sufficient penetration to be lethal?

No offense, but think. If you throw a knife with a wrist flick like I do a frisbee, and given that I can throw a frisbee golf disk over 200 feet easily...
I think a wrist flicked knife can penetrate soft tissue.
-Squirrel


Agreed but penetration of soft flesh is not necessarily a fatal blow.
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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 3:12pm
 
Pikåru wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 2:47pm:
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 10th, 2013 at 1:33pm:
Pikåru wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:26pm:
squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 9th, 2013 at 8:20pm:
now in a medium-range.... I have little experiance(if any  Wink).....
so I am just guessing, but if you can throw a knife really quick(like flick-your-wrist quick) it might help you in a fight....
Issue- if you miss.... you are weaponless.
-squirrel


Again, practicality. Would a wrist flicked knife give sufficient penetration to be lethal?

No offense, but think. If you throw a knife with a wrist flick like I do a frisbee, and given that I can throw a frisbee golf disk over 200 feet easily...
I think a wrist flicked knife can penetrate soft tissue.
-Squirrel


Agreed but penetration of soft flesh is not necessarily a fatal blow.

Yes... If I stick a knife in my thigh am I going to die if I dont cut any arteries?
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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2013 at 4:47pm
 
Maybe days or weeks later from infection.
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