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Re: Now Taking Questions
Reply #420 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:35pm
 
Thanks for the advice Timu, I guess, being limited in my skilll at the moment, I am unsure as too, if a tennis ball would stay in for my current fig.8 technique (or any other style really) in a narrow pouch. I have these images in my head of being surrounded by my comatose family, shattered windows and the dog, having been knocked sensless by errant tennis balls... Smiley.


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Reply #421 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:22pm
 
Mick wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:35pm:
Thanks for the advice Timu, I guess, being limited in my skilll at the moment, I am unsure as too, if a tennis ball would stay in for my current fig.8 technique (or any other style really) in a narrow pouch. I have these images in my head of being surrounded by my comatose family, shattered windows and the dog, having been knocked sensless by errant tennis balls... Smiley.


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LOL man! Tennis balls don't hurt THAT much.
But one of my neighbors will yell at me if they get in his yard.
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Reply #422 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:41pm
 
Depends how long it takes before you get hit I reckon. Early in the piece when the slinger is still fresh, or later on when the slinger is starting to wear out a bit and getting frustrated from missing you all the time... Grin


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Reply #423 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:37am
 
I'm curious, a rock is slung and it shatters against a hard surface. How hard are we throwing to make that happen?
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Reply #424 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:51am
 
Tomas wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:37am:
I'm curious, a rock is slung and it shatters against a hard surface. How hard are we throwing to make that happen?


It depends on the rock Wink. Some like bad crystalized quartz shatter into many small parts really easily. It does not take much force to make that happen. Other stones will bounce back like a rubber ball.
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Reply #425 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:48pm
 
Ya you're right Teg. I think I will pick a bunch of average river rocks from the same source and clock how fast they have to go to bust. That's good enough for me:)
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Reply #426 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
I want to know anything and everything slings can be made of, and how you make them. Its a ig task, but I wanna know so I can make a sling wherever, whenever.

Also post what projeciles can be.

Ex Post:
You can make slings out of x.

You make them out of x like this:
Step 1
Step 2
Step 3

etc.

My favorite (theoretical) projectile:
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Reply #427 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 1:44pm
 
hassan wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 12:24pm:
I want to know anything and everything slings can be made of, and how you make them. Its a ig task, but I wanna know so I can make a sling wherever, whenever.

Also post what projeciles can be.

Ex Post:
You can make slings out of x.

You make them out of x like this:
Step 1
Step 2
Step 3

etc.

My favorite (theoretical) projectile:
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Well....
Just look here-
SLING MAKING TUTORIALS

(Note: these links direct you to entries in the Guides and Articles Section or to active threads where you may post replies.)

Aussie: Seatbelt Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1243340828/0


Rockman Sling tutorial.
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=how-to-make-a-rockman-sling---bruno-tosso


David Morningstar: Shaped Pouch
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1235334392  


Matthias: Looped Warp Pouch
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1168848146  


Zorro: Medical Tape Sling  
http://www.slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?board=1;action=display;num=1140522990;star t=0


Zorro: Sierra Nevada Sling
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=sierra-nevada-sling---zorro


Rat Man: Cobra Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1257543044



Rat Man: Three Strand Sheepshank Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251648259


Rat Man:  Alternate Method for All Sheep Shank Knot Based Slings:
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338672380/0#0

Paleoarts: Elk Hide Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1246904983


Peaceful Jeffrey: PJ (Paracord) Sling  
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=5-strand-woven-paracord-sling-tutorial---jeff rey


Yurek: Easy Medical Tape Pouch
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1231030050


Malik Lund: Simple String Sling
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=making-a-simple-string-sling-an-illustrated-g uide---malik-lund


Matthias: Knit sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1089409452/0#0


Cliff: Woven Paracord Sling
Guides and Articles entry with text and photos
http://slinging.org/index.php?page=woven-pouch-sling---colin-philips
Original thread.
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196026630


JustKnot: Knotty Sling Tutorial
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170457410


Asemery: Woven Single Cord Sling
Simple attracive sling, (Video clip on YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APExNLO1oHY

adsi: Basic Netted Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1244047803/0  


Jaegoor: "Honda Popular"
This is a particularly pretty sling from one of our German members. Requires good hand-skills to make.
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1278497976


Donnerschlag: Shepherd's sling
This isn't a sling-making tutorial located on Slinging.org, but it was too good not to mention.
http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-make-a-shepherds-sling


Alpine:  Lacrosse Mesh Sling Pocket Material:  
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298522212/0


The Warrior Yeti: Short Splicing Tutorial
Whilst not a tutorial on making a complete sling this information is helpful, especially when making braided slings.
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1248744802

 
Sons of benjamin
How to tie the fisherman's bend:  
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298579543


Lampi100: Braiding a Sling
This inclusion was suggested by David Morningstar. (Not sure if Lampi100 is a member himself; great slinger either way.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxoCrO2CwY

Sons of benjamin:  Latvian Braid:
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300655156/0


Lightslinger: Lightslinger Pouch
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1353231480/0#0

                                         
David Morningstar: Beginner's Tennis Ball Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1305569221/0#0

David Morningstar:  Mexican Woven Pouch Sling (paracord)
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1340105523

canteskuyaOMD: Reconstruction of Mesoamerican "Tematlatl"
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1339632628/0

David Morningstar: Cestrosphendone Dart Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1340710131

Braided "Survival Sling" (similar to Rockman's sling)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfxvrKUG0zA&feature=feedu
Teg: Knotted Pouch Sling
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1357568101/0

OK, enough tutorials.
You can make a sling from steel wire-
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8008/1013960.jpg
http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1360520506/0#0

Cord Materials-

Jute cord(1-2mm)- can make a rockman, rocklaric, or balaric. You simply braid and weave.

Nylon cord(1-2mm)- Same as for jute, but better if you just braid, weaving is diffucult and it does not like to work well.

Sisal twine(about 4mm)- use like paracord. It is about the same thickness. It makes good woven slings.

Sisal garden twine(1-3mm)- use like jute, its slightly more durable, also easier to make a woven, cause its stiffer.

poly-cord(about 2-3mm)- rockmans are good, balarics tend to be a bit too stiff. It is slippery.

Hemp- makes a beautiful balaric/braided sling. Not great for weaving.

Linen- Never tried it, but as I have seen quite a few balarics and 0 rockmans, I assume it is better for braiding than weaving.

Paracord- Good for sling lines, makes a nice TS3, also makes a good woven, but it is not as abrasion resistant as sisal or jute.

Sport cord-(1-2mm)- sort of a thinner paracord. Very strong, durable, best woven or braided. It is thin enough to make a good woven pouch. Cups well. Run over it with a lighter and wax for best performance.

Paper- Waxed paper cord makes good cord material, it just is not super durable.

POUCH MATERIALS-
This is a list of the pouch materials I have tried or seen.

Leather- the #1 pouch material for a simple sling, very strong, durable, medium easy to find. Thicker leather makes a good aussie or cupped style pouch, the thinner stuff can just be cut into a diamond shape and it will cup to the projectile.

Wovens- the #2. Depends on fiber type, see above.

Denim (old jeans)- Medium durable, slings good with tennis balls, makes a good aussie-style. Best when coated with 1 layer of d-tape, with reinforced holes, or use like innertube rubber. It tends to pull of of holes(like most fabrics do) and fray at the ends.

Fabrics- not very durable, but massively varies per fabric. Felt makes a good, durable sling, but it can and does pull out of shape, best in an Lightslinger pouch style. Some are better than others.

Seatbelt material- Makes a good cupped pouch. I suggest you gently run over it with a lighter, it melts the surface fiber and makes it more durable. Cutting it with the cutting tip on a soldering gun prevents fraying, or just cut with scissors and melt with lighter.

Used Australian mail conveyor room belting- Well, the classic aussie pouch:)

Innertube rubber- Style varies. the Lightslinger pouch sometimes loses ammo, and is less durable than other styles. The one I use most you fold the ends into a M shape, then knot the cord, then wrap tightly with electrical tape. There is a tutorial listed above.

Tie-down strap- Best as an Aussie pouch for the thinner stuff(about an inch wide) or as a seatbelt sling. It is more flexible and thinner, and is sometimes more abrasion resistant because it is designed to resist abrasion, but that is rare.

Paper- thick paper, layered, or thin strong cardboard can make a decent sling, provided you put a layer of duct-tape over it and reinforce the holes.

PROJECTILE MATERIALS-

Lead- Undoubtably the best bang for your buck material for distance and hitting power. It is dense, and heavy, and not too hard, melts easy. Easy to cast and mold. Very popular in ancient times for war in well-developed societies.  It is also toxic and some what $$$. it can be found at tire shops- old wheel weights- and as fishing sinkers, which are pre-shaped for slinging. at $3 for 2 4 oz sinkers, it is not too $$$, but $1.50 is not super cheap.

Bronze- also easy to cast, but much harder, stronger, and it melts at a higher temp. It is also somewhat corrosion resistant. It is not as dense as lead. It is also more expensive.

Gold- soft, easy to cast and melt, but EXPENSIVE!!!! nearly $8,000 for a single 4 oz glande. Dense, almost as good as lead. Hard to get.

Steel/iron- Great ammo, I think it is overlooked. 3/4 and 1/2 inch re-bar is commonly found in a dump or near a broken-concrete dump. It is diffucult to cast into a good shape, as it does have a high melting point, but iron is easier to cast into a bicone. It tends to corrode.  Dense, but not as good as lead. Rebar cut into 2-3 inch lengths makes a good distance projectile. Plus its dirt cheap- maybe a few cents per shot.

Shaped stone- a lot of work for a little bit of ammo, but it flies good. Do not use it myself so do not know much about it. Ask Pikaru about it, he made some nice stones.

Clay biconical- very cheap, fast, good, but not as dense as stone. Also easier and MUCH quicker to make. However, unless you live in an area with natural clay reserves, it can be somewhat expensive, as shipping is COSTLY.  Or you can go to the pottery shop down the road... They probably have some.

Natural clay lumps/balls- good, consistant, fast, but can curve in flight. Cheap too.  can be a lot of work for some ammo... but not that much.

Dirt clods- good for beginning slingers:) Its what I learned with. I still use them.

Concrete-morter mix- good, cheap, and easy to shape. they sometimes shatter on impact. wet concrete is corrosive, be careful. It can also be abraisive.

Natural stone- Probably the most popular ammunition ever. Used for thousands of years for cheapness and power. It varies widely, from light chunks of volcanic rock to super dense round quartz river pebbles. landscaping rock is cheap.

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"Remember, this is not a scalpel. It is a steel wedge that you will be slamming into knotty wood. Hone accordingly."
 
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Reply #428 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 1:45pm
 
By the way, that took me 40 mins to type.
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“Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
"You don't think the electricity is off. You check it 3 times to make SURE its off"
"Remember, this is not a scalpel. It is a steel wedge that you will be slamming into knotty wood. Hone accordingly."
 
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Reply #429 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 4:29pm
 
Is no one gonna comment? I did not cover everything, did i?
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“Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”
"You don't think the electricity is off. You check it 3 times to make SURE its off"
"Remember, this is not a scalpel. It is a steel wedge that you will be slamming into knotty wood. Hone accordingly."
 
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Reply #430 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 4:33pm
 
If you've got the patience and the skill, you can make dang near any kind of sling from anything that's flexible and long enough (pine needles are obviously too short but sisal fibers aren't) and is relatively durable (plastic bags are reasonable, tissue paper isn't AFAIK  Wink ).

If you are just braiding something, just add in the loose fibers as you braid. Otherwise make everything into 2 ply cordage and proceed normally.

Page through the Sling and Slinging Pictures thread and you'll find a ton of designs. A lot of slinging and sling making is taking the initiative to do your own resarch and we try to make that pretty simple.

Look around and you'll learn plenty about sling making.

Regarding my favorite ammunition. I'll take allmost anything that'll fit in the sling pouch:Rocks of all kinds and shapes, tennis balls, wood, clay, whatever. Though if I were to recieve a large amount of free projectiles, I'd prefer 3.5 ounce FMJ lead glands.  Smiley
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Reply #431 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:40pm
 
A very thorough response on your part SS. Well done!.


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Reply #432 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:25pm
 
Mick wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:40pm:
A very thorough response on your part SS. Well done!.


Mick

Thanks, but I am not sure if that was worth the 40 mins of typing...
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"Remember, this is not a scalpel. It is a steel wedge that you will be slamming into knotty wood. Hone accordingly."
 
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Reply #433 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 1:15am
 
Probably not, but it's still a credit to you all the same in my books. You went above and beyond in trying to help a new bloke...Even if his/her motives may leave a little something to be desired judging by the edit note.  Wink


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Reply #434 - Apr 12th, 2013 at 10:28am
 
Or you could have pointed out that all the stickies up top answer all his questions.  Some people don't read them, they think that they are all some type of advertising or are just admin notes.
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