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Reply #1440 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am
 
Masiakasaurus wrote on Jul 18th, 2012 at 1:52pm:
It's called whipping. Like jlasud said, it's to prevent abrasion wherever it's applied. The section of the release cord receives a lot of wear from stones leaving the pouch so people frequently whip that area of their slings.


I have heard about this before. Where can one see examples of it (and how to do it)? I have had two sessions with a new sling these past days and it's already coming apart towards the grip-end. Maybe this would be worth doing?

Also quick question regarding waxing slings... Do people do it? If so what for?

Also if yes to above possibly a bit of a disgusting question (sorry) but does normal ear wax work as a free substitute? I am "blessed" with an abundance of that. 🤷‍♂️
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Reply #1441 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 7:30pm
 
Klydd wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am:
I have heard about this before. Where can one see examples of it (and how to do it)?

This is a nice quick example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iji3RXmBGEk.


Klydd wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am:
Also quick question regarding waxing slings... Do people do it? If so what for?

Definitely.  It will help protect against the elements, such as moisture.  It can increase wear and abrasion resistance.  It will also add a little weight to the sling if that's something you're looking for.


On that last one.....hmmmm....I think I'll let someone else tackle that.  Grin
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Re: ASK QUESTIONS HERE
Reply #1442 - Mar 22nd, 2025 at 8:34pm
 
joe_meadmaker wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 7:30pm:
Klydd wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am:
I have heard about this before. Where can one see examples of it (and how to do it)?

This is a nice quick example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iji3RXmBGEk.


Klydd wrote on Mar 22nd, 2025 at 11:12am:
Also quick question regarding waxing slings... Do people do it? If so what for?

Definitely.  It will help protect against the elements, such as moisture.  It can increase wear and abrasion resistance.  It will also add a little weight to the sling if that's something you're looking for.


On that last one.....hmmmm....I think I'll let someone else tackle that.  Grin



Coming in CLUTCH with the whipping-link thank you! Will look at those examples tomorrow and start doing it. Heard about it but had issues finding something relevant; got a bunch of results on other things.

Am far too bad to know what I'm looking for atm; before habit sets in can probably get used to anything like a little added weight towards the end. MUCH preferable rather than making a new sling after just a few sessions. 👍

Regarding the last one every five years or so I, no joke, have to visit a nurse and have them vaccuum my ears because the buildup starts pressing on the eardrums to the point where it sounds like tinnitus. Usually takes more than one visit as well (!). If this "medical anomaly" could contribute to this hobby guess it's fate. Will try in a couple of weeks and try to remember to return with (very much not so) scientific results on this. 😛
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Reply #1443 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:03pm
 
I've used common whipping on my release cord once, it slipped off the first session I took it out.  Maybe it was the combination of materials I was using (nylon and UHMWPE) being too slick, but hearing at least one other has had similar experiences with common whipping, you might want to try sailmaker's whipping.  It's a little more complex, but it uses the structure of the rope to hold itself in place.
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Reply #1444 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 9:50pm
 
ScantPalaver wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 4:03pm:
I've used common whipping on my release cord once, it slipped off the first session I took it out.  Maybe it was the combination of materials I was using (nylon and UHMWPE) being too slick, but hearing at least one other has had similar experiences with common whipping, you might want to try sailmaker's whipping.  It's a little more complex, but it uses the structure of the rope to hold itself in place.


Thank you for the tip I shall look this up as well. I've JUST finished a new sling and used commong whipping but JUST on the very end. Still dk how to feel about it; whipping feels a bit loose, like it's not secure, but also more space for fingers rather than just holding behind/on the knot. Sling feels great though on "dry runs". Made the fingerloop a LOT smaller and think that works better; nice and snug.

Good practice to wrap the downstring near the pouch? I have not noticed any wear there at all so far on a single sling (?). Rn just lobbing smooth tennis balls though.

Also thank you again Joe for the helpful link. First attempt semi-loose as said but at least wasn't difficult to follow.

Edit: oh and another quick question. I now put my cross entirely on the backside of the pocket as picture shows. Figure a flat pocket would mean less "variables" when it comes to throwing. However having the cross go through the front would mean it grips the projectile ever so slightly (?) and it's probably more secure. What do people prefer here in general?
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Reply #1445 - Mar 23rd, 2025 at 10:18pm
 
The whipping above a terminal knot (Turk's head?) should be fine, I think, and make a fairly decent release tab.  When I whipped mine, it was on a naked taper, so it slipped off right through the tassel.

I've seen reinforcement of the belly on some slings, usually leather on natural fiber, but if you're just throwing tennis balls, abrasion along there isn't an issue.  I'll find the post of a polypropylene sling I spent a few hours throwing river rocks with, you can see the wear pattern starting.  https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172017416/7842#7842
You can see in the picture of the pouch, some wear starting about midway up the pouch to about three inches after it rejoins. That's the area that gets abraded and why you see some slings with leather sewn on that section.

Which cross are you referring to?  Those black strands attached to the pouch?  I haven't used a sling with that feature, so have no preference.
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Reply #1446 - Mar 29th, 2025 at 1:48pm
 
ScantPalaver wrote on Mar 23rd, 2025 at 10:18pm:
The whipping above a terminal knot (Turk's head?) should be fine, I think, and make a fairly decent release tab.  When I whipped mine, it was on a naked taper, so it slipped off right through the tassel.

I've seen reinforcement of the belly on some slings, usually leather on natural fiber, but if you're just throwing tennis balls, abrasion along there isn't an issue.  I'll find the post of a polypropylene sling I spent a few hours throwing river rocks with, you can see the wear pattern starting.  https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172017416/7842#7842
You can see in the picture of the pouch, some wear starting about midway up the pouch to about three inches after it rejoins. That's the area that gets abraded and why you see some slings with leather sewn on that section.

Which cross are you referring to?  Those black strands attached to the pouch?  I haven't used a sling with that feature, so have no preference.


Thanks for the input. My whipping is not loose (worked well on second try) and also melted it just a bit for ease of mind. Have test-swung it a couple of times (though weather here currently bad so loaded will have to wait) and it feels really good and I like the added weight near the end. How it affects shooting will have to find out but again am so new/bad that it's easier to get used to stuff now probably.

Will be trying lacrosse balls at some point but they're also smooth. See the wear; figure that's where your ammo rolls off so makes sense. Will have a lot of leather to work with soon enough have a couch that's on its last legs so will try that too.

Yes am referring to those strands. I used to just weave them directly THROUGH the pouch. Now I put them entirely on the back for a smooth pouch. Am highly unsure of what is better; figured it'd be better to have them on the back to just have projectiles roll off smoothly but not every projectile (funky shaped rocks) will roll nicely ofcourse.

Am looking for a tutorial on how to do a solid pouch now if there are any good/easy to follow on the forum (?). I saw BSRC's latest sling and that looked good; would want to learn. Figure that'd be more useful for improvised ammunition of different sizes and shapes.
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Reply #1447 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 10:41pm
 
Something that's been bugging me and I can't seem to find an answer on Google or the forum.  Increasing or decreasing the number of strands in a braid in pairs works fine.  Eg, 9->7->5.  But how do you add one strand to a braid?  Eg, 6->7. 

What I've tried before is laid the new strand in place with an overhand knot tied in the end, continued the rest of the braid so the knot catches on the braid as it forms, then when the new strand comes up, it can be pulled (gently the first few times) until it's fully incorporated.  But this feels...hacky. 

Adding a strand seems like it would be a pretty common operation in textile projects, so I'm puzzled that I can't find more information.
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Reply #1448 - Apr 11th, 2025 at 12:05pm
 
If the braid is tight, adding a new strand is no big deal. It won't pull out. Just lay it in and keep braiding. You can just cut off the part that is hanging off flush with the rest of the braid. if you are going from 6 to 7 strands, you'll have to do about 14 strand pass overs (so that each strand has been passed over twice) before the braid really starts to lock in. I do this all the time with slings. 

It sounds like you are doing it just fine, laying in a new strand is always a bit tricky to keep everything aligned and in place until the braid gets tight, but that is just part of the process. You don't actually need a knot, but it it helps, keep using it.
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